Frank
Posts:125
 |
| 05/03/2007 6:47 PM |
 Alert
|
Hi everyone
My second try at this portrait
Jang, Myrna, Heather: Thanks again for your input - I redid the portrait using your advices and balanced them out. Here are the 2 pics again (before and after)
Frank
|
|
|
|
myrna
Posts:154
|
| 05/03/2007 8:36 PM |
Alert
|
| Better jaw line now. Still love those eyes! |
|
Myrn |
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/03/2007 9:09 PM |
Alert
|
Thanks Myrna:
I took better pic this time (better lighting, the portrait was not tilted as much) and of course I modified her right cheek line by covering it with hair, enlarged her left jaw line a bit and put more dark onto her hair. My wife also recommended either showing 2 or 4 teeth instead of 3 (looks more balanced) and I also blurred the line between the teeth a bit.
Frank |
|
|
|
vikingwife
Posts:878
|
| 05/04/2007 1:12 PM |
Alert
|
I like the second one much better. It seems much softer. You wife was right.....showing the 4 teeth looks better. One suggestion....(and I would ask the others' opinions here) maybe darken the eye that is hidden behind the hair a bit? Whether you choose to or not....I really like it.....and I like the detail work on the jewelry as well.
Jess |
|
|
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/05/2007 5:12 AM |
Alert
|
Good point Jess, that would show more depth to the eye. I am going to take your advice on this.
Thanks for your input
Frank |
|
|
|
heatherm
Posts:2120
|
| 05/05/2007 1:20 PM |
Alert
|
| I agree with darkening the eye behind the hair, it is in shadow. The rest looks great now, I really like the deeper shadows in the hair. Well done. |
|
Heather
http://www.heatherartist.com |
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/05/2007 1:46 PM |
Alert
|
Thanks Heather (and everyone else) for taking time viewing/commenting on my work It helps.
Frank |
|
|
|
jang
Posts:68
|
| 05/06/2007 4:52 AM |
Alert
|
I agree with everyone that it looks better now. Great re-do of the teeth - gives her a more natural look.
jang |
|
|
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/06/2007 8:05 AM |
Alert
|
Jang
Thanks again for taking time to give feeback
Frank |
|
|
|
LMB
Posts:446
|
| 05/06/2007 12:42 PM |
Alert
|
Hi Frank,
I like your drawing. If I may suggest that you keep a flat mirror handy and periodically look at your drawing by holding up the drawing to the mirror. The reflected image will exaggerate drafting errors. Leonardo da Vinci in his notes even recommended this.
Leon
|
|
Http://www.artabus.com/leonbayless/
http://www.catchlightartgallery.com/leonbayless.htm
quand le coeur est dans un bon endroit tout est possible
when the heart is in a good place all is possible |
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/06/2007 2:04 PM |
Alert
|
Hi Leon
I have heard about this technique and did it with my animal paintings - and believe it or not , I didn't remember to do it with this drawing, it just slipped my mind - thanks for reminding me and I am going to do it from now on especially with portraits
Frank
|
|
|
|
vikingwife
Posts:878
|
| 05/07/2007 8:24 AM |
Alert
|
Hi again Frank....
I usually do the "mirror check" too and it really helps my work. Also.....tried something new the other day.....I took a picture of one of my projects and downloaded it into the photo program into my computer. Once there, I played with the values, making them lighter/darker. It really helped my stippling quite a bit, showing me areas that would look better darkened. It would probably be easy to do this with pencil and charcoal drawings as well.
Jess |
|
|
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/08/2007 7:15 PM |
Alert
|
Hi Jess, I agree I used a sw program to adjust the lighting of the picture I took trying to match it as closely as possible to the lighting condition of the real paniting/drawing because I am such a poor photogrpaher and that's about it.The idea of changing drawing to "match" or closely to it with the modified picture is also a good idea and it appeals to me, too but I need to be careful since I have tendency to overwork a painting or a drawing quite a bit ("accident" occurs after such hard work would really be unpleasant and it actually did happen to me).
Thanks for sharing the idea.
Frank |
|
|
|
Cessie
Posts:1
|
| 05/11/2007 9:01 AM |
Alert
|
Hello Frank and everyone else,
I am new to the group here, but I'd like to say to Frank I love the 2nd portrait also, she seems much softer and natural. I agree with the suggestion of darken area of eye under hair to give depth. I will also help the portrait appear more natural to have the shadows added in. This is overall is a excellent rendering/portrait. Oh and thanks to Leon for the new idea (for me at least) of holding pictures up to a mirror, I will definitely try that from this point on.
|
|
|
|
Frank
Posts:125
|
| 05/12/2007 8:58 AM |
Alert
|
Cessie
Welcome and thanks for taking time to look at my drawing and give feedback.
Looking forward to see some of your posts here or in other forum.
Frank |
|
|
|