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Subject: Bizarre Gallery Offer

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peyo72
Posts:1

01/05/2008 7:41 PM Alert 

I was recently approached by someone who is opening a new gallery in Key West about selling my paintings and the offer sounds really strange to me. I have never sold in a gallery or been represented by anyone, but I don't see how this could possibly be the norm. He wants me to meet his business partner and sign a contract sometime next week. The whole deal seems very one-sided to me. Here is what he is offering:

1. I get 40% of sales of the original pieces, 35% for what he calls "artist proofs" where I basically paint a little on a print and call it a painting (something I'm very against), and 30% for regular prints( he keeps calling giclées "glichés", both are just as phoney to me. They're prints).

2. He wants everything I have, including examples of trompe l'œil and even paintings I did for my children (Hell no). He wants exclusive rights and full control of my work but only sell the originals on consignment. Some of these he doesn't even want to sell, he just wants to control them.

3.Now it gets really weird. He wants me to use a vacant double-wide mobil home on a 1 acre plot as my studio (which he calls my "gallery") for $1000 a month taken out of my check. He also told me I have to keep it mowed. Who's mowing it now?

4.He wants to provide me a computer to use for research that will be deducted from my check.

5. For his grand opening in mid-February, he wants to put me up in some fancy over-priced hotel THAT WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF MY CHECK.

6. He wants me to repaint some of them so we can sell each one as an original-sounds like a legal con, calling each one "an" original instead of "the" original.

7. Then he tells me that he won't sell the originals for at least a year. So where's the 40%?

This all seems to be worded so I end up paying him to make money off me. He told me this is better than average, that he's basically giving an unknown artist the deal of a more established one.This guy is loaded and his house is full of expensive, albeit crappy and pretentious, paintings. And I know for sure that he really is opening a gallery, but this really how it's done? I never painted for the money anyway. I have no problem keeping my artwork and giving it to friends like I always have. Please let me know if this sounds as oily to you as it does to me. Thanks

mikec@pols

Posts:761

01/06/2008 7:50 AM Alert 
Run, Run as fast as you can...AWAY!!!! You could do better setting up in an alley somewhere. You might get beaten and your work stolen, but it wouldn't feel as bad...you would at least know that you didn't give it away!!!! (Annnnnd, you wouldn't owe the thieves a dime after they took your work!)
This guy sounds like a scam artist to me. He's offering just enough to 'entice' you, but his motives are very questionable to say the least. Just think on it this way...If he is willing to cheat customers/clients, would he be doing any less to you or any other artists that he 'hooks'?!!!
Mike

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gene
Posts:1232

01/06/2008 10:02 AM Alert 
I agree with Mike.............RUNNNNNNN! Why not show your work to a gallery? Or approach different venues, such as bank lobbies, gift stores, etc. etc. and see if they would be interested in showing some of your work. They usually take 45 to 50 % of what sells. They don't take possession of your work. Or buy a booth in a local art fair and see how many sales you generate. But, I would say, avoid this crook.
Gene
357Lady

Posts:94

01/10/2008 2:00 PM Alert 
Weird..weird..weird!!! Like they said above...Runnn, and very fast I might add.
The guys a snake.

Josi
candita
Posts:26

01/10/2008 2:13 PM Alert 
I've heard of some bad offers and been involved in a few, but this absolutely takes the cake. Do not sign anything or give this guy any of your work. He is a conartist. If you're not sure about approaching galleries please get some guides, there are a lot out there available at the library, amazon.com, etc. etc. that can help you make the right choice and not get totally screwed over.
Are you involved in groups, or trying to sell your art on your own?
Grace Dobush
Posts:34

01/11/2008 2:29 PM Alert 
I agree—this sounds very, very bad.

If you're trying to get into selling your art, I recommend you look for small, established galleries. Definitely not startups that could fold at any time with owners who sound like their previous jobs were running Nigerian e-mail scams.
River

Posts:360

01/17/2008 4:38 PM Alert 

I havn't asked my gallery friends yet...but isn't 50% a bit high as well?

I know you set your own price for your work...and then negotiate with the gallery what percentage they keep...but I thought 35 was more normal? Perhaps it depends on what exposure the gallery feels it offers you, ie. busyness and  what kind  of prices they get?

 

 

River

Posts:360

01/17/2008 4:41 PM Alert 

...I just wanted to add...that the world is rife with artistic genius' that signed bad contracts.  The beatles signed their songs aways for peanuts I understand...and Billy Joel lost his first 50 million by letting his brother in law do his books!! Never, never sign something that gives anyone CONTROL over all your work. It's your work forever...you can sell a piece...or a copy of a piece.

But the rest is yours...

Cagg
Posts:0

01/21/2008 8:10 AM Alert 
Don't even think about it. Put a match to the contract and get out fast. Aside from the ludicous demands, no one should get more than 40%. NYC galleries are sometimes 50%, but for that they should promote you and get you the best price for your work.
prevenger

Posts:11

01/21/2008 10:34 AM Alert 
Haha! Before I got to #3, the first thought I had was "run!"

So, this guy wants you to be his indentured servant? You take care of his crappy trailer, property, paint for him and him alone, and sign away rights to everything you will create or already have created...in addition to paying extra for every little amenity.

He comes out golden in the deal. If your work sells, he makes money. If it has luke-warm sales...he makes money. If it doesnt sell, I'll bet those contracts you would sign make you liable for the trailer rent, lawncare, hotel, and computer despite not selling any work!!!!

I would suggest, if he truly has a gallery in Key West and wants to feature your work, you counter offer him. Renegotiate #1 and remove everything after that. Change it to him paying for your computer, hotel, and a stipend for a studio OF YOUR CHOOSING. If he balks, well, tell him "good luck with your new gallery" and head for the door.

Noelle

An artist never really finishes his work; he merely abandons it. ~Paul Valéry

Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do. ~Edgar Degas

Painting is just another way of keeping a diary. ~Pablo Picasso

Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up. ~Pablo Picasso
Cagg
Posts:0

01/21/2008 11:11 AM Alert 

I thought I would add to the Bizarre list:  This is an email I received recently. I looked at properties etc of the sender and it was from a spam/scam site.

I may frame it so I don't get a big head

Good Day,
Am Bryan Todd Am from Santa Cruz, I came across your lovly artwork online and i notish they are fantastic.
I really love them alot,due to this i have a special feelings of ordering this said work from you (), meanwhile i will also like to know the condition of the work and some relevant information gadering the worksuch as price and other things needed to be known.
I will want the work with me after the new year celebration,
Thanks alot and i hope to read from you as soon as possible,
Bryan.
JohnD

Posts:9

01/29/2008 2:09 PM Alert 
Definitely "fagetaboutit"!!! Obviously a scam!

Pastel Art by John De Young
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