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bjdavey
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| 08/22/2007 3:47 AM |
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The news that Bev Doolittle's latest limited edition piece, Beyond Negotiations, is sold out at the publisher inspired some thoughts from me on my blog today. When a popular piece is sold out at the publisher, its next step is to sell out at retail. When that happens, a secondary market takes over to facilitate buying and selling sold out pieces from an edition.
The secondary market is not organized in any fashion. It is made up of a loose knit group of brokers, dealers and others with access to sold out prints and with ongoing marketing to reach potential buyers. The prices are purely a supply and demand function and most often involve signifcant increases from the original price of the prints. Doolittle's latest piece is already selling on eBay and elsewhere online at prices as much as three times the original price. Whether the sellers get such lofty price points is a different matter, but some are trying to capitalize while the buzz is high.
The blog goes on to discuss the marketing tactics used to sell giclee prints and limited editions and questions why visual artists are stuck with being forced to limit how much of their work they can sell. Recording artists don't limit sales, neither do filmmakers or Broadway impresarios, for them it's the more the merrier. Meanwhile, Bev Doolittle and her publishers Greenwich Workshop are making a bundle on her latest print, but they can't make any more. They are done selling already. I contend if the edition were open, but numbered consecutively, it would sell well for years and the lower numbers would be more collectible than higher.
Read the blog post for more detailed thinking on this and when you do, you'll also find a couple of links to informative articles on the secondary market that are definitely worth reading and bookmarking. |
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NaomiBlvs
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| 08/22/2007 2:12 PM |
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BJ, I just wanted to say I so value the information you have been providing. I am an old/emerging/new artist, i.e., I'm no longer going to give away my paintings for free! I am planning on launching a small site with a limited amount of work in the next couple of months (http://www.naomisstudio.com one page intro right now), since I am starting from scratch (remember, I said I gave away all my old work).
The point I am trying to make is from reading your posts, looking at your blog, I have changed my whole mindset and future business model around. I am just starting out, nobody really knows me, why the heck would I try limited editions from the outset? For that matter, when I do make a name for myself, why limit myself? Thank you for changing my mind and giving me another viewpoint that seems far more reasonable.
I have also done tons of research on ImageKind and have not been able to find anyone saying anything bad about them, so I am going to give them a try. I still would love to hear from someone on this forum of the quality of the prints. I have ordered their media kit and spoken to their customer service a couple of times. If they treat people like they treated me, when I am just curious and asking a ton questions, then I know they have superb service for their actual paying clientele.
I have preordered the new Canon camera (40D), so I can take professional quality images of my artwork. Canon's launch date is suppose to be September 19th. I will need to learn how to operate the camera and learn about digital photography. I've been more of a point and shooter most of my life. Very exciting!
I have just received your book, "How to Profit from the Art Print Market," and plan on reading it from front to back. That book looks like it is chock full of information. The only chapter I probably already know three quarters of the information is on websites and e-mail marketing. That's part of what I do now for my "day" job. In skimming the rest of the book, I can't believe how valuable the information is that you provide. I can't wait to really get into it.
Anyway, long winded way of telling you I think you are great, love the information and experience you are so willing to share. Keep it up!
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Wishing you peace and prosperity, Naomi www.naomisstudio.com |
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bjdavey
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| 08/23/2007 2:53 AM |
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Thanks Naomi! Replies like yours make the effort worthwhile. The book and blog are my way of giving back to the industry that helped support me for so many years. It's not unlike creating art. We are drawn to do these things even though if we measure the value of time and what else could be done in those hours, there are many more ways to make more money. Of course, if you hit it big like a Bev Doolittle, that no longer applies. Stiill, I think most artists are chosen by it as much as they choose to do art. The impulse to scratch that creative itch is powerful.
All the best to you in your career. If you haven't checked out Dick Harrison's www.salestipsforartists.com site, you should. He shares his knowledge and exsperience from 20+ years of being a successful art rep in numerous podcasts there. His insights and wisdom are priceless and it's all free for the listening. |
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brightwater03 Posts:9
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| 08/23/2007 11:01 AM |
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Hello Barney and Naomi,
During the years I was on the road, I sold many magnificent, 100 - 140 color, limited edition serigraphs by a major fine art publisher. This was prior to, and during, the early explosion of giclee reproductions. The up-front cost to do a complete serigraph edition of several hundred large format prints had to be staggering, but they consistently selected images many of which sold out at the wholesale level. They poured tons of dollars into promoting the art and their artists; a class operation from beginning to end, in my opinion. As Barney suggested here and in his other perceptive blogs, "limiting" the size of an edition rather than numbering prints consecutively and allowing the actual demand to determine the size of the edition of the print is more manipulation than market value.
This company set a pre-publication price, usually in the mid hundreds of dollars, and then increased the price as the edition sold at wholesale, usually ending with a $3,000 - $4,000 "sold out" price. Galleries that bought early at the low end, could, and often did, advance the prices to their clients and demonstrate the increase in value by showing the company's monthly price sheets, which reflected the increases they set in place. Some editions never sold out, but many did. They also had an enlightened policy that allowed their galleries to "trade-in" over-bought or slow moving images for the latest releases. It was a "win - win" because the gallery could freshen their look as the publisher credited the gallery with the original "early in the release" price against a new purchase and re-sell the return to another buyer at the higher "sold out" price.
They also kept great records and there were a number of times a client of mine would want a "sold out" image and be willing to pay whatever was asked. I could call the publisher who then would check their buyers to see if a gallery still had one in inventory, and I could negotiate with the gallery to buy for my client.
Artists, in general, are wonderful people, but because they are so focused on the creative process often won't take the trouble to learn the basic ins-and-outs of the business they hope will support them. If I had a magic wand, I'd wave it and make a copy of your no-nonsense book appear magically in their hands. Then the trick would be to make them read it. Harry Potter, where are you when we need you!"
Dick Harrison |
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