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vikingwife
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| 04/17/2007 12:09 PM |
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Hi all.....
I'm just starting out with colored pencil. I know that occassionally artists will post photos of their work in stages so we can see their progression. I've seen this mainly in the oil and pastel forums. Just throwing this out there......could some of the colored pencil enthusiasts maybe think about doing that as well?
And is there any reading material about CP techniques that you would recommend? I tried doing a picture of my daughter, and I felt a little lost trying to build up the colors for the skin tones and shadows. (But I DID make a pretty darn good apple!  )
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Bright
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| 04/17/2007 12:24 PM |
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I hae seen some eye popping pieces done in CP, but they were in basic colors, of red, blue and yellow.
Really good paper, very, very smooth, and really good pencils made the work I saw look fantastic.
The work was of some star spangled banner type fantasy heroine. The red apple you did was
probably more successful because the red was so good and true.
Flesh is tough to get the colors right and then to have them reflect light like skin is something I have never really seen in CP so far.
But, yes, I think you could post in stages very easily. It might help to define the stages you would like to
portray before you actually start. This is just my litlle ol opinon and I hope we can hear from other more
experienced cp artists.
Good luck!
Bright
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rpartin
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| 04/17/2007 7:27 PM |
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Jess,
I have one suggestion that might help you in working with skin tones in colored pencil. Using colored paper gives you a base to work with. It can be any number of colors, but I usually use a medium gray, tan, blue or green tinted paper.
I posted what I consider to be a good example of using this method several months ago. It was a CP portrait of Marilyn Monroe. The paper was tan. I believe it has been removed now. If you didn't see it and would like to, let me know and I will re-post it.
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claudiamah
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| 04/18/2007 11:15 AM |
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Color Pencil Instruction Books. Our small local library has an extensive art collection, due to local artists’ donations. You may be be able to find these books on-line, even though they are older editions. The starred books, I personally used.
Borgeson, Bet. Colored Pencil Fast Techniques. Watson-Guptill, 1988.
Borgeson, Bet. Color Pencil: Key Concepts for Handling the Medium. Watson-Guptill, 1983.
* Hutton-Jamieson, Iain. Color Pencil Drawing Techniques. Quarto Publ. Ltd., 1986.
*Martin, Judy. The Encyclopedia of Colored Pencil Techniques. Running Press, 1992.
* Parramon, Jose M.. How to Paint with Color Pencils. Watson-Guptill, 1988.
Poulin, Bernard. The Complete Colored Pencil Book. North Light Books, 1992.
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gene
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| 04/19/2007 11:22 AM |
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| Here is another suggestion: "Colored Pencil Solution Book" by Janie Gildow and Barbara Benedetti Newton. Check out Janie's webpage at www.janiegildow.com. Beautiful. |
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vikingwife
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| 04/19/2007 11:47 AM |
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Thanks for the book tips....I wrote them down and I'll see if they have them at Barnes & Noble so I can look thru them. I tried using CP's on watercolor paper. My picture looks okay, but the paper really shows thru and my blending needs a lot of work. I'll have to grab a variety of textured papers at the art supply store and see what works best for me. Thanks again!
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rpartin
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| 04/19/2007 11:08 PM |
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Jess,
When I said I use colored or tinted paper, I didn't mean watercolor paper.
There are some light weight papers that I like and they come in pads of assorted colors. They also come in different sizes. They are made for charcoal and pastels, but I use them with colored pencils and really like them.
I always use the back (smoothest) side. Two brands that I like to use are Grumbacher and Strathmore.
They are lightweight, but I have never had any problems with them not being sturdy enough for CP.
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vikingwife
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| 04/20/2007 6:10 AM |
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Hi Ron....
I know.....I was in a rush when I was looking for a sketchpad to practice on and I grabbed the watercolor Strathmore by mistake. I'll be heading out to the art supply store tomorrow and I'm planning on picking up a few different sheets of different paper colors and sizes. I know they have Strathmore.....I'll keep my eye out for the Grumbacher. I've been checking out the books for colored pencils on-line and read some good things about "Capturing Soft Realism in Colored Pencil" by Ann Kullberg. Have you heard of her or read that book? Just wondering.
Hi Gene....I found the "Colored Pencil Solution Book" at the bookstore. It's the only one out of the above mentioned books that I was able to find to thumb thru. (I hate buying books on-line without being able to look thru them) . Thanks for the tip! It looks like a good book and it's definitely on my list of possibilities.
Claudia......Thank you for the suggestions. Did some research on Amazon.com and it looks likethey have most of those books there. Based on what I read for customer reviews.....I was thinking about "Basic Colored Pencil Techniques" by Bet Borgenson. Can you tell me, does it have step by step photos for layering color? I'm looking for an instruction book with lots of pictures and maybe a section on tackling skin color.
Thanks for you help everyone!
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betsart43
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| 04/29/2007 4:55 PM |
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Hi Jess, I did a full figure drawing in CP, and it turned out very nice. I have Ann Kullberg's Colored Pencil Protraits Step by Step from Northlight. She does wonderful flesh colors. I love this book! I learned so much from it, I joined her online lessons. I don't know if she still offers that or not, but well worth the money. I am new to this community and look forward to all the artist imput. I want to improve my watercoloring, any suggestion? Bet  |
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vikingwife
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| 05/02/2007 7:05 AM |
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HI Bet.....
Are you talking about watercolor pencils? I would post it as a new subject question. You have a better chance of getting responses that way. I'm not very familiar with watercolor pencils. I have a few, but I haven't used them yet. Welcome!
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rpartin
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| 05/02/2007 10:16 PM |
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Jess,
I think I may have given you some incorrect info concerning tinted papers. I don't believe Grumbacher makes drawing paper now. The pads I have are pretty old and they didn't show any on their website.
I was re-matting a piece recently that was done on Strathmore and was really shocked at the amount of fading that had occured. The piece was about thirteen years old but was not exposed to sunlight. The part that was covered by the mat retained its original color, but the uncovered part was a totally different color.
I looked on the Canson website and they claim that their Mi-Teintes paper is lightfast. You can also download a nice color chart ot the papers.
I have used the Mi-Teintes paper and it works pretty well if you use the smooth (back) side.
I sent an e-mail to Strathmore inquiring about the lightfastness of their paper. I am waiting on a reply.
Colored pencil work takes a lot of time and effort and deserves to be done on a paper that is as lightfast as possible. I hope Canson is the answer. |
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vikingwife
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| 05/03/2007 8:21 AM |
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HI Ron....
Well THAT is great news for me! The store I've been buying supplies at DOES carry the Canson Mi-Teintes paper in various colors. I bought a piece of beige paper and cut it into smaller squares, but I haven't tried it yet. I also bought illustration board. Any good/bad experiences with that? I bought a book....."Capturing Soft Realism in Colored Pencil" by Ann Kullberg. I'm looking thru it now for any useful tips. One Who Sees also gave me some really good advice, so I think I'm ready to try COLORED PENCIL ROUND 3!! I'll try using the Canson paper for this one.
Thanks for letting me know about the lightfastness of the Strathmore paper. Do you suspect that WATERCOLOR on Strathmore would have the same lightfast issues? (I have a lot of Strathmore watercolor pads at home, but lately have been working on Arches paper. If so, I'll probably save the Strathmore for practicing on or for the kids' watercolor projects.
Hope you're feeling better!
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rpartin
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| 05/03/2007 1:31 PM |
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Jess,
If you have Strathmore watercolor pads I would assume they are white. Lightfastness of that paper shouldn't be an issue. The lightfastness of the watercolor paint would be the concern in that case.
When I do watercolor painting I use Arches paper. I think it is preferred by most watercolorists. (don't quote me on that, 'cause I don't want to start a feud).
The very first colored pencil piece that I did (many years ago) was on illustration board. I think it worked well for me. I posted that piece a while ago. You may have seen it. It was a Cocker Spaniel puppy in a sewing basket.
Good luck with the Canson paper. I think you'll like it. Remember, the back is smoother than the front. |
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vikingwife
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| 05/13/2007 7:01 AM |
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Ron....
I sat down and started a new CP painting/drawing on the Canson paper....and I used the BACK as you suggested. Whata difference!!! I love it! Thanks for the suggestion. Hopefully I can finish something to post soon.
Bet....
I bought "Capturing Soft Realism in Colored Pencil" by Ann Kullberg. Really good book! Lots of useful tips. I'll have to look for the other book on-line. (I couldn't find it in the local bookstores and art supply stores.) But thank you SO much for mentioning her.
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Kerry
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| 07/01/2007 8:48 AM |
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To add to what Ron said above, I use Canson's Mi-Tientes for cp alot. It comes in a huge range of colors and you can use either side. I prefer the smooth side for detailed work and the rough side for less detailed painting. I also like Tizano by Fabriano. Since I work with chalk pastels alot, I almost always have both papers on hand. The background does make a different so keep that im ind when planning your work.
As for blending colors - try this exercise. I did this as part of an assignment in illustration class. Try to do a drawing using only "process" colors. Process colors are the 4 main colors that when layered make all the other colors in the print process. In Prismacolor you could use: Black, Canary Yellow, True Blue and Tuscan Red. I believe there is a Magenta pencil, but we were told to use Tuscan Red as everyone in the class had that pencil in their kits. I was stunned by the number of colors I was able to come up with by layering those 4 colors in different orders. And yes, you can get some nice flesh tones by doing this! |
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