Daffy69001
Posts:72
 |
| 06/17/2007 1:25 PM |
 Alert
|
| I am having trouble getting the color on this tiger lily as intense as I would like. Do you start with the darker shade working toward lighter? Also, how much does the paper influence the color...I'm using Bienfang sketch paper. Any help would be appreciated. |
|
|
|
one who sees
Posts:508
|
| 06/22/2007 8:57 AM |
Alert
|
i adore tiger lilies..mine are near to popping but about a week away still...
many times its not the color thats down that isnt bright enough...but its the darker areas that arent dark enough in value, to give you a strong contrast....
try using something like raspberry in the darker reddish areas...and a light lemon yellow in the highlighted areas...
what texture is the sketch paper? chances are your paper isnt going to permit you to have the amount of layers that you need to lay down....sketch book paper is fine for sketch ect....but many times it just cant hold up to much more than that.....
what type of cps are you using? |
|
~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh
www.bettyannlemist.com |
|
Daffy69001
Posts:72
|
| 06/22/2007 2:57 PM |
Alert
|
one who sees,
Thanks for the color advice. I have Strathmore 400 drawing paper...perhaps this would have been a better choice? I have several different cps but used RoseArt (72 set) for this pic. I have Derwent watercolor(24) & Graphitint (24) and Prismacolor Portrait set (24). I haven't had any training so this is an adventure into the unknown for me. I have found a few instructions on various techniques but haven't had time to experiment much. |
|
|
|
vikingwife
Posts:815
|
| 06/27/2007 6:58 AM |
Alert
|
HI Daffy69001.....
I'm also in the experimental stages with the colored pencils. I wasn't doing very well using my sketchbook paper (mainly for the reasons that OWS mentioned). Ron told me to use the BACK of Canson Mi-Tientes paper (they have it by the sheet at most art supply stores). It really HAS made a difference. I was able to lay down more color without the paper showing thru. Not completely sure about the rules of colored pencil....but it almost seems to be the same as watercolor......I think you're supposed to block out the areas that you need to be lighter before you start. OWS might have a better fix on that question. Where you have already put down so much color, I agree with OWS.....making those dark areas even darker will definitely make the yellowish orange highlights stand out more.
I think that colored paper definitely influences a project. I would love to see your tiger lily on cream colored paper. Just opinions from a CP newbie 
Jess |
|
|
|
Daffy69001
Posts:72
|
| 06/27/2007 7:34 PM |
Alert
|
Jess,
Thanks for the suggestions...now I really must try it on cream paper. I just ordered some paper to try. I have to order all of my supplies since we don't have any art supply stores locally. Dick Blick seems to have it all. I will just keep trying new things until I hit on something that keeps my attention for a while.
|
|
|
|
Workinforwood
Posts:17
|
| 06/28/2007 2:19 PM |
Alert
|
| I can't help, since I know nothing about colored pencils, but I can offer words of encouragement...your lilly is looking great, and very close to realistic, which sounds to be your ultimate goal. This probably isn't the best spot, but since it seems you have recieved some good advice, and obviously you are pretty good with your pencils..what is a colored pencil? Not to sound stupid, but is it different than a pencil crayon? Just browsing around, and I'm seeing lots of great pencil and colored pencil works, and perhaps should look into giving it a try myself. |
|
|
|
one who sees
Posts:508
|
| 07/18/2007 5:21 PM |
Alert
|
ww make sure ya buy a good set...like anything else if you buy cheap you can only get limited results...art stores normally will offer single pencils for sale for a lil over a dollar....but you can buy at dick blick as well and singles too....but normally you have to buy a box...which in some cases is fine if your stocking up....
card stock for scrap book users can be experimented with as well...its acid and litmus{sp} free...so is a cheap alternative but also can limit your layer amts too....
if one thinks of cp as an oil painter thinks of using glazes? it starts to make a lot more sense..one doesnt using one color for a particular color....but uses numerous colors to create the ~goal~ color....
daffy? why not try something like an apple....egg, or orange?....sometimes keeping simple when your learning cps is much easier to grasp how they work.... |
|
~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh
www.bettyannlemist.com |
|
zannetx
Posts:4
|
| 08/21/2007 2:08 PM |
Alert
|
Daffy,
I really like your flower! Flowers are my favorites to draw and paint, however my husband is tired of all the flower pictures around the house....
When thinking of intensity in my work, I always think of contrast......contrast from dark to light, and the contrast of complementary colors. For colored pencil drawings, I like to use paper that will hold up to the many layers, but is also smooth so I can put down
some solid color. I have used Bristol in the past, and even watercolor paper. If you like a rougher look, go with paper that has more "tooth". And OWS is right, make sure you buy some good pencils, you always get what you pay for. And try different brands...they all go on a bit differently.
I hope you keep going and show us more of your work! |
|
|
|
SuzieQ
Posts:4
|
| 09/27/2007 3:05 PM |
Alert
|
Hi! I,m SuzieQ. I have been drawing with CP since1998, I use Prisima Colored Penciles, They have a wax base and are susposed to be colored fast. Tey can be layered better than just your ordanary colored pencils (like caryola P). It makes a lot of diffrence what kind of paper you use also. Hope this helps . I,m still learning slso. |
|
|
|
one who sees
Posts:508
|
| 10/15/2007 7:41 PM |
Alert
|
re reading what i wrote i cant believe i forgot to answer part of your question!
about how to make thel lighter colors ....
much like wc? you need to identify your light areas...sometimes i even coat with a layer of white...this way? if i lose that brightness, i can bear down a bit harder and work right down to the layer of white, regaining my brights again....
sooo i guess i would say, dont put darks over where your going to work lights....it can work but sometimes you will lose the bright value, high value contrast your aiming for..... |
|
~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh
www.bettyannlemist.com |
|
Chalk Dust Studio
Posts:18
|
| 12/06/2007 4:18 PM |
Alert
|
I agree with making the darker areas darker to make the it pop... On the Orange Lily I just finished I used a lot of dark purple for the dark areas.
It's looking great!!
Carolyn ~
www.ChalkDustStudio.com |
|
|
|
one who sees
Posts:508
|
| 01/06/2008 8:36 AM |
Alert
|
i think we all missed your question Workinforwood,
cps are like a pencil, but, instead of graphite core, its a color core..there are quite a few brands out there to chose from that have different qualities and draw backs....i basically stick to sanford prismacolor....hope this helps! |
|
~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh
www.bettyannlemist.com |
|
Daffy69001
Posts:72
|
| 05/11/2008 11:24 AM |
Alert
|
| I haven't been back to this is quite a while.Thanks to all of you for your helpful suggestions. I really don't get to spend as much time drawing as I would like.Seems the boss doesn't appreciate this use of company time ;-) |
|
|
|