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Raech
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| 06/04/2007 6:58 PM |
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I have seen such great work on this forum that I decided to give CP's a try. I love their portability and that there is minimal set up. This is a drawing/painting(?) of my daughters and my niece walking on a very sunny day. I am so used to mixing my paint colors that I am a bit frustrated with the lack of mixability (is that a even a word?) with CP. I think part of the problem is that I only bought a starter kit of 24 pencils (with not one color that even resembled skin tone) I have only just started the background. Any tips, feedback and critiques would be greatly appreciated. |
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Judi
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| 06/04/2007 10:01 PM |
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| Hi There, I'm new to the site, but not to colored pencil. York work is fantastic and no one is going to believe that this is your first attempt at it! I've also been a watercolorist for 25 years and have found that you can mix colors with pencils by using the same principals as with watercolor. Just layer your colors. This is very general, but you will learn how heavy to make each particular layer by what you want from that layer. In other words, some layers will be heavier and other will be a very light glaze only. For example, to neutralize a garish blue ( not that any of yours are here, believe me ) you would put quick, extremely light strokes of blush pink over it going in one direction and then another very light glaze of lemon yellow going in the opposite direction. You are using the (Pink) red + yellow = orange which is the opposite of blue so it will neutralize the blue theory. The blue layer would be placed down in a lot more solid covering layer than the other two top glazes would be and that's the trick. Hope it helps, because your work is fantastic!!! Judi |
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vikingwife
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| 06/05/2007 7:04 AM |
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I think it looks great! I completely understand your frustration....(I am currently trying out colored pencils myself).....but I think this effort was very successful. As for the skin tones.....I don't think it's much of an issue with this piece. With the sun reflecting off the sand and everything......it comes across as natural. That's my opinion anyway. 
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myrna
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| 06/05/2007 6:53 PM |
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| Raech..........I agree totally with Judi and Jess. I'm also trying cp for the first time and my results were not as beautiful as this. I'm not giving up yet, and you DEFINITELY should keep at. This is great. |
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LMB
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| 06/06/2007 11:45 AM |
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Hi Raech,
I agree with Judi and Jess that it's beautiful work. I can't wait to see it finished. Please post it. You are very talented.
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Raech
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| 06/06/2007 6:57 PM |
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Thank you all for your kind words! Well I am certainly more enthused now. I guess I am on the right track. Thanks for the advise Judi. I hadn't thought about changing the direction of the pencil strokes. I havn't been able to find a good instrucional book in my area maybe next time I get to Toronto I'll find a better selection.
I will definately post once finished. (don't hod your breath however...I move pretty slowly!) Thamks again for the encouragement.
Raech |
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LMP01
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| 06/06/2007 8:55 PM |
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| Wow! You're quite an artist. This is your first cp? Impressive. |
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gene
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| 06/08/2007 8:12 AM |
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| What a charming painting. I just returned home after spending four days with my 7 and 8 year old granddaughters. The two on the left could be them. You captured the real essence of little girls! Great job..............Gene |
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one who sees
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| 06/10/2007 9:38 AM |
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this is a lil beauty!...what colors have you used so far in the flesh?....and warning!!! stay away from any orange!...its powerful as say, alizarin crimson or lamp black in oils!....
with oils mixing colors is immediate..with cp mixing colors is done by laying down/layering the individial colors that would create the goal color.....and in the beginning stages done with a light hand...so it lays the color ontop and doesnt eliminate the one below...also because you do not at this point want to fill up the tooth, not matter is plate finish or highly texture, at this point......
so if it takes
unbleached white
burnt sienna
yellow ochre
alizarine crimson
raw umber..........to create a base flesh tone in oils?
you begin to select your colors very similarly...
the unbleached white for sand or cream
burnt sienna for the same
yellow ochre for the same
alizarine crmson for raspberry or crimson red
raw umber for umber or one of the sepias
using the very lightest of touch to add the darker valued colors...as well as if you use yellow ochre,
deco peach is a bit strong so if ya used a light hand it would add some lil pink tones, but the deco colors were discontinued, so you have to substitute...
usually? you wouldnt want to use one color per object or area...just as you might not use one tube color, say french ultramarine, for the sky....
i think in the beginning when starting out with cp, we all have a preconceived notion about how to use it...and ya have to just clean the slate!
ps! i buy individual colors at the art store, normally not more then a dollar fifty a piece, and there are so many more colors than a 24 set! buy them as you would buy oil colors! |
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Raech
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| 06/14/2007 7:46 PM |
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OWS- Thank you so much for the advice. We only have one small art supply store and a Michael's here so I am limited in my choice of supplies. I will go and see if I can get individual pencils. There are larger sets but boy do they charge an arm and a leg for them!! I am very much in the experimental phase of this new medium and perhaps I chose too ambitious a project. I guess I can always paint it if this doesn't turn out in the end!!
For all you wonderful CP artists on the forum, do you generally start by blocking in your dark and light areas first? Is it cool to let the paper color show through in a painting? |
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Raech
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| 06/21/2007 6:33 PM |
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Here is an update on my piece in progress. I think I am almost done. I have tried to keep the background very loose with little detail. Critiques (good or bad) would be greatly appreciated.
Raech |
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one who sees
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| 06/22/2007 8:53 AM |
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progressing nicely!!!....bg seems fine and doesnt take over the image....i would try to add some grey, variety of values and warmth or cool for the roadway/path...
remember to if your trying to get depth, colors in the distance are less vibrant and have touches of grey,grey/blue.......
i have read some cp artists put the darks in first....and some dont...i tend to cover all my white areas, or brightest areas with a touch of white....just a light layer to protect the paper in case i get a bit too dark in that area, i can get it back to that white layer again...
remember that many times? what some perceive as white? really isnt...adding a tiny touch of sand or a french grey 10% adds color to that sunlight area....always test your combination of colors on a side sheet!...when you are this far along you dont want to be testing on the work itself!.... |
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Workinforwood
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| 06/28/2007 2:35 PM |
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Looks pretty awesome to me. Since you are asking for any critique, I find some of the body parts blend a bit much into the background. That's the only thing I see, but I do see it immediately upon viewing the picture. I can't tell you how to fix it. It is quite an inspirational piece, telling a very pleasant story. You should be patting yourself on the back. Thanx for letting me look at it, hope my opinions help you.
One who sees ...interesting comments. I'd like to ask about the white you mention...would you just lightly color the entire paper with a white pencil, and then begin on top of that? I'm guessing the white undercoat allows you to erase colors on top without them being absorbed into fibres of the paper? |
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one who sees
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| 07/18/2007 5:29 PM |
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hiya ww....sorry for being late getting to answer your question....eeks...
i use white layers on the areas that i will have as white like, or very light...this way if i do end up too dark in those areas, i can get back to that white layer and correct it again....but nope...i dont cover the paper in white, just certain areas...
many complain that erasing cp is impossible....and years ago i definetly would have agreed....but i have found several erasers that do lift it....
a helix battery op eraser is a wonderful tool for graphite users or cp users....you dont have to always use the mechanics of it...especially with graphite...wonderful for lifting tight lil highlights......
also sanford has a pink stick eraser that comes in a holder....very very inexpensive and its a gem for lifting cp....
the old way was never to make mistakes....so cp definetly was for the detailed minded artist..
when you use color paper? say, black, you must adjust your colors...because when applying color to black paper, the cps seem far to bright...the contrast making the color appear whitish or too high in value...so adjust that a bit using a bit deeper value cps and it works fine....
sorry i am late answering, sometimes i get very far behind with my work and have to crunch! |
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Vincent Van Gogh
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