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Subject: Flag and Pistol

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rpartin

Posts:402

04/30/2007 10:31 PM Alert 
This is a CP piece that I did a while back. Prismacolor Pencils 14" x 7". Comments are welcome.






Ron
Frank
Posts:125

05/01/2007 7:19 AM Alert 
This is very nice and detailed work Ron it looks like a photograph

Frank

Sorry to hear about your heart scare - hope you are getting well soon
LMB

Posts:445

05/01/2007 7:30 AM Alert 
Hi Ron,
It's hard to believe that such a good painting is color pencil. It is very good work. I second Frank on saying that this looks like a photograph. I too hope that you are feeling much better. I look forward to seeing more of your posts.
Leon

Http://www.artabus.com/leonbayless/
http://www.catchlightartgallery.com/leonbayless.htm
quand le coeur est dans un bon endroit tout est possible
when the heart is in a good place all is possible
vikingwife

Posts:878

05/01/2007 8:09 AM Alert 
Amazing work! I agree with Frank and Leon....it is VERY realistic looking! I love the woodwork on the grip! My dad is a gun enthusiast....I'll have to show him this one.

Jess
heatherm

Posts:2120

05/01/2007 8:42 AM Alert 
Wow! This is really amazing work. You even have the stitches in the cloth!

Heather

http://www.heatherartist.com
Anna
Posts:131

05/01/2007 9:59 AM Alert 
Hi Ron,
-Very good work.
-Hope you get better soon.
Anna.
jang
Posts:68

05/01/2007 10:25 AM Alert 
This is just exceptionally detailed - a great subject and great execution!

I join everyone else in wishing you a speedy recovery.

jang
heatherm

Posts:2120

05/01/2007 3:32 PM Alert 
Ron,
I wished you a speedy recovery on your other posting, so in case you didn't see it, I wish it again for you, so this way you get double positive energy being sent to you!

Heather

http://www.heatherartist.com
rpartin

Posts:402

05/01/2007 8:18 PM Alert 
Thank you all for your nice comments about my painting.
Even more apprecitated are your good wishes concerning my health. Thank you so much.
Having commented back and forth with some of you, I feel like you are friends even though I've never met you. For sure, we have a common bond.

Ron
Jim

Posts:2268

05/01/2007 11:12 PM Alert 
Wow is right! Man your detail work is amazing! It's
right up there with your patience in turning out this
quality of work.
I too am sorry to hear about your health concerns. I hope
you are on the fast track to recovery my friend.
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com

All the best,
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com
one who sees

Posts:508

05/02/2007 7:20 AM Alert 
i am going to comment and then run like hell!...~wink~

its a beautiful moving piece...for many reasons.......

the work is excellently rendered but? but? yes there is a but...
its eight percent done....unless the paper was shining when ya took the photo..the color still has that as yet unfinished look to it.....more layers! its calling for more layers!...

~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh

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rpartin

Posts:402

05/02/2007 1:36 PM Alert 
one who sees,
Wait! Don't run! The gun's not loaded!
Thanks for your comments but I'm not sure I understand. 8% finished?
How would more layers improve this piece?
I value your opinion and that's why I'm asking for a bit more explaination.

Ron
vikingwife

Posts:878

05/02/2007 2:15 PM Alert 
Well I disagree. I think the fact that the flag has some white showing thru, adds to the texture......almost making it look like denim. (Did I spell that right?) If OWS was referring to the pistol, I can see where maybe a few more layers could be added to the barrel and chamber.....making the black darker.....but I don't think I'd want to see more work anywhere else. Just my opinion.

Jess
Diane

Posts:130

05/02/2007 6:15 PM Alert 
Well I disagree that this painting needs more layers. I also don't think the gun needs to be darker (sorry Jess). This is an old gun. It would not be dark and shiny new. To me, it has the realistic look of old, well used, almost rusted metal. I agree that this piece is very realistic--you feel like you can almost touch it-- and very, very well done. If I didn't know better, I would think it is a photograph. It is an awesome painting in any medium, I'm absolutley flabbergasted that is was rendered in pencil. Ron, you must have the patience of a saint!

Diane
Frank
Posts:125

05/02/2007 6:31 PM Alert 
She (OWS) probably meant eighty percent ? because 8 % is really too too little and you certainly put a lot of work into it.

OWS probably should run :-))) and not because of Ron .... OK, OK, no violence allowed here !!! )))

Frank
one who sees

Posts:508

05/03/2007 9:50 AM Alert 
typo ron....eighty percent done....not eight forgive me...i seem to be risking bodily harm in some areas....sorry peeps....not my intension to raise hackles honest!!!..
its not that you want things darker or even differentl values. though the very last step is to tweak those up a notch too.....

its that i would do more colors of the existing layers that you already put down....to increase the saturation.....
ron? did you get to the point where if you held the painting very flat....,and got down to peer across the surface of the paper...that it was filled with a thick layer of waxy color? or you could see spots that were thinner covered...and...
when you look at the piece....do you see white specks of paper, from the texture, still showing?

~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh

www.bettyannlemist.com
rpartin

Posts:402

05/03/2007 9:27 PM Alert 
one who sees,
Ok, 80% sounds better.
Maybe I can explain why this piece has some of the paper shining through. I rarely do a CP piece(notice how I'm cleverly avoiding the drawing/painting issue?) when I don't allow some of the paper to show through. But I usually work on colored paper. The paper color is part of the overall effect.
I called this piece finished because I liked it. I would have taken it further if I were trying to make it look like an oil painting, but I don't think I would have been successful.
But I do understand what you are saying about the white peeking through. It really doesn't show that much on the original work. And I always welcome your comments. You have a lot of CP savy to share. No raised hackles here!

Ron
one who sees

Posts:508

05/04/2007 5:03 AM Alert 
thanks ron...your words are muchly appreciated...i too enjoy working on colored paper...using the bg color as one of the colors within the objects...many times i will chose the bg color so that it works as the object color or the shadow color....its a whole different effect with cp, where less is more sometimes....~wink~

~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh

www.bettyannlemist.com
rpartin

Posts:402

05/04/2007 3:20 PM Alert 
This brings to mind another concern. What colored paper do you find to be most lightfast? Canson claims their Mi-Teintes paper is lightfast but they don't document that claim. (at least, not on their website)
I have done a good bit of my CP work on charcoal and pastel papers such as the Strathmore 500 Series. They have faded, some drastically.
Have you had any problems with paper fading?
I bought a can of the UV protection spray by Krylon and tried it on a scrap of colored paper. It turned the paper much darker and didn't lighten when it dried. That's not an option to prevent fading, in my opinion.

Ron
one who sees

Posts:508

05/04/2007 6:12 PM Alert 

if i use tinted or color paper? it seems the paper does eventually lose some of its color.....and i never hang mine near or about bright sunlight....but i have a piece that is on sketchbook paper....just average paper, and it now is about fifteen years old.....and still looks rather crisp...the colors are still clean and bright....
the paper might be a tad off, but then it wasnt a bright white to begin with....

i am guilty of not properly sealing the back quite as i shoud....and this could make a difference too....i forgot to add that fabriano seems pretty color fast, i have a new pad of canson, mi-teintes:black but i havent gotten into it yet...

and i had used strathmore 400, which nearly wore my cps down to a nub before i could get good coverage....its such a rough paper, it might not be worth ever using again....there are far better ones, and easier to work with!


~I am always doing what I cannot do yet, in order to learn how to do it~
Vincent Van Gogh

www.bettyannlemist.com
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