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Subject: Art Clinic Critique #2—Elberon Beach

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bluiiz
Posts:522

10/24/2006 10:13 AM Alert 
Read the new online critique of Anna Wainright's painting Elberon Beach (pastel, 16x20):

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I really love portions of this painting, like others, and all in all, learned a lot trying to make it better. However, it did not make a recent juried show, so I was hoping maybe you could tell me where I went wrong, because, as you all know, they will not. I called it "rough seas" but have renamed it "Elberon beach". 






Anna
bluiiz
Posts:522

10/24/2006 10:14 AM Alert 
a detail...






Anna
Jerry

Posts:98

10/27/2006 7:56 PM Alert 
Bluiiz
I am far from being an intellegent critic but my thoughts are that the picture as a whole does not have a feature that draws the viewers eye into the painting. Yet saying that I like looking at the small detail that you posted of the picture. I feel like I am drawn into the picture.
The colors and your ability to put them on the canvas are great.
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klippie

Posts:1830

10/29/2006 2:00 AM Alert 
Anna, It is a good work, if yours are not good enough then mine wont be either you have definately a good way with pastels I love it, see mine in pastels.
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madspider
Posts:9

11/12/2006 9:05 PM Alert 
I agree..the small detail portion is very engaging as opposed to the whole composition. Perhaps in the future, you should try experimenting with focusing on a small section of an scene you want to paint, centering in on the portion of the landscape or object that really communicates what you want to capture. Because in the small detail image, you can truely feel the rough waters, you dont have to see them to know their out there.

Personally, I do this all the time, I'll work on a large piece, and on a whole, its a loss, missing what I was after in creating it, but there are sections which are right on, and I learn from those and take those lessons into the next painting.

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bluiiz
Posts:522

11/12/2006 9:27 PM Alert 
thank you all for your thoughts! I would have to agree with you, that the biggest problem with this one is that your eye doesn't land on one thing and the overall feeling is somehow lost, thanks again, Anna

Anna
GOwenStudios

Posts:67

11/14/2006 11:05 PM Alert 
Hi,
I would divide the next painting into thirds, 2 horizontal lines, 2 vertical in the sketch. Where the lines intersect is where you decide to place your point of interest (focal point). When doing the painting make sure you detail is mostly in the focal point. Also to draw your viewers into the painting you might could consider movement like in S shapes towards the focal point, zig zag and such. The detail you have on this painting looks like a highlight and is destracting.

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J RAMESH

Posts:343

11/17/2006 9:17 AM Alert 
on the right hand bottom 1/3rd place, a lady in red dress and red cap looking towards the waves would have made a nice painting.
bluiiz
Posts:522

11/17/2006 11:18 AM Alert 
JR, Nice to hear from you! I agree with you, unfortunately, I don't have very good luck with fabricating a scene... I am usually stuck with what I have a photo of... That's what I tried to do with the seagull in the center, which turned out only to be a distraction. I should have given some of this up and croped it differently. The detail area would probably be better by itself. thanks again for your help. What are You working on? Looking forward to seeing your next piece!

Anna
J RAMESH

Posts:343

11/18/2006 9:32 AM Alert 
Thanks bluiz, i am trying to learn water color, and until i come out well with it i may not try anything else. i feel i have acheived some thing right now. may be in a couple of days i will be having some art work in water color to post in AN. wish you see them and comment.
J RAMESH

Posts:343

11/18/2006 9:41 AM Alert 
when you are working on some subject look for other professional artist's similar work and check out how they have composed a similar scene. if some art looks good for you and like to repeat, check out your own reference photo which can be used for similar compostion. that way you will compose similar art and as well not copy those masters!!!!!!!!! change a bit here and there.
gene
Posts:1207

12/13/2006 8:08 AM Alert 
Anna............I really love your detail portion. If I were you, I would, if you think that is right, crop the painting just as you did with your camera when photographing the detail area. Then re-mat it in that size and "Voila", I think you will have a great painting. Place a mat over that area alone, and see if you don't agree. Of course, seeing in it real, maybe I am wrong. But I love that area. The way you handled the waves against the rocks is great. I wouldn't be too discouraged by not getting in that show. If you submit it to another jurist, it could not only get in, it could win a prize. You never know what they are thinking! Gene
bluiiz
Posts:522

12/13/2006 8:49 AM Alert 
Gene, You read my mind! That's the wonderful thing about work on paper.... much harder to crop a canvas LOL! thanks for your input. I also went to the Grand Rapids website... I am always inspired when I see work of that caliber!

Anna
Oilartist
Posts:25

12/19/2006 2:50 PM Alert 
I must say you are a very talented artist, and for me, viewing your paintings, I could actually hear the crashes of hte mighty and powerful waves, and hte actual strain and stubborness of hte rock formations fighting against all that power crashing against them. I am a self taught painter as well, and one day I hope to be as great as you. G Derby, Lubbock, Texas http://groups.msn.com/ghassanrached/pictures and look for all albums posted as G DERBY, this month is the seventh year aniversary of my muse and adventure.
bluiiz
Posts:522

12/20/2006 6:33 AM Alert 
G Derby, Thanks for the compliments! I do have a love of the waves, but I don't feel I have it down yet, the blues are not cold enough, I hope that will come in time! I need to force myself to work more often, because that's the only way to improve!

Anna
heatherm

Posts:2120

12/21/2006 5:58 PM Alert 
Anna,
In oils I use ultramarine blue, cobalt blue and cerulean blue for my waves, with some light yellow added to make turquoise lights. In pastel I come as close to those colors as I can and use a really dark blue with a touch of dark brown and purple for the dark values. Experiment first before starting a new piece. However, this piece is really great in the closeup!

Heather

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colors
Posts:23

12/27/2006 4:22 PM Alert 
Hi Bluiz,  Your work is very beautiful.  This particular painting appears as though it is two paintings.  Perhaps you were in a different mood when the upper half - from the splash against the rock upwards - was done, than when you painted the bottom half.  The upper portion appears dreamy whereas the bottom half appears very realistic and as though the water was truly moving and behaving as the ocean would do if one were actually looking at it.   There is no true focal point, but my eyes are drawn to the bottom half as my taste is towards realism.  I love seascapes.  I love doing seascapes.  Keep up the good work!! Sincerely, Colors
Diane

Posts:130

02/23/2007 6:54 PM Alert 
Anna, I love the painting, especially the detailed view. The colors are beautiful. My first thought when I looked at this painting it seemed to me that it was a little top heavy with the water going all the way to the top. I can't put my finger on it, but it seems to me like there ought to be a horizon line about a quarter of the way down the painting. It seems, by the detailed view of the birds, etc, that in the lower poertion one is looking more straight on, where the upper portion seems as though you are looking more straight down from above. But, I could be wrong, so please don't be offended that I said so. You have a magnificant talent for color. As the others had said, and I think you agreed, cropping it would make it perfect.

Diane

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