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osagejoe
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| 08/11/2007 8:22 AM |
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| my background in art has been architectural drafting and rendering.i as a nut on details.i have spent weeks on still life watercolors to achieve detail.i am wanting to broading out to do pastels,how do you break yourselt from all this detail work,or should i just accept the fact that this is my style and go with it.the second question if i continue with this style what brand of pastels would fit this style.brands considerated nu-pastels great american art works and sennelli.sorry for the long post thanks and have a great day |
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one who sees
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| 08/11/2007 8:49 AM |
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morning!..i am also a detail hound....though i vary it a bit by handling different mediums.....my cp work is very detailed, my oils can be it depends on the subject matter, and my graphite is both....loose and detailed.....
i have given myself free rein, yet i think within each one i am comfortable...sometimes i just want to break out, and i start an oil painting very loose very free....that feeds my need to not be so regid...as the painting evolves it might stay loose, with visible brushstrokes....or i might decide to crank up that focus and work towards where the painting seems to take me......
though i plan most works, research and do preliminaries......when i approach the serious work, i just let where the paint/graphite takes me...
mix up your subject matter, BUT....paint what you love, paint/draw what excited you visually......if its tight detail...then so be it.....i wouldnt worry about it....i would let it happen....
sometimes i purposefully do choose a subject matter that isnt demanding, more free for loose interpretatiions.....marsh grasses, beautiful skies...oceans or pastures........other times i want to be tight and contolled, working in glazes with my oils....or working in unnumbered layers in cp....
you cant fight what entices you..what excites your eyes, or makes your hand itch to work......its who you are....eventually it might evolve a bit....
i think we all have to realize there is a plethora of mediums and ways to express ourselves.....and we have the rest of our lives to experiment with them......
one medium i cant help with is pastel...sorry....though i could help with color work....drawing...i cant um..eh...touch the sticks...i have this odd chalky terra cotta type of aversion..lolol
though the creamier pastels do tease me? i havent been able to work with em....
i know this might not help much....but maybe if you try to post this in the pastel forum? the pastelists will come out to support you with more knowledge!!!
by the by...have you tried mixing your mediums? wc with cp? some fabulous work is produced with those effects!
and i use sanford prismacolor cps, i have a few older ones from years ago that are defunct now...and a few spectracolors, but basically its sanford for me because they are creamier than some and waxy instead of oily.....and i happen to love how they withstand my abuse! ~wink~ |
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Billstudio
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| 08/19/2007 7:34 AM |
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| Try painting outside and for an exercise choose a subject that is far away where you cannot see detail but just the big shapes and values. Squint at your subject which also blocks out detail. The change in light will limit the amount of time you will be able to spend which should also help. Just a suggestion. Bill |
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ejc-art
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| 08/23/2007 12:25 PM |
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Do what you love! You'll find that you do work much better that way. As for pastels, Check out Claudio Bravo's pastel work, most people mistake them for oil paint, just because it's pastel doesn't mean you can't be as detailed as you want to be.
Here's an example...
http://imagen.aut.org/4DPict?file=20&rec=79.559&field=2
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Larimar Osprey
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| 08/23/2007 2:16 PM |
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Detail...hmmmm. If you can pull it off it looks magnificent, but if not it just clutters up the canvas. If you're interested in pastels, pastel pencils might be to your liking.
As for loosening up, just get a sketchbook for doodling and scribbling. Brush pens are great for this. |
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StillRotraut
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| 09/03/2007 4:28 PM |
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| Hi - I am also fighting a bit for keeping things from getting too detailed. I am using acrylics and gouache exclusively - the latter tempts me because it makes it just so easy. So - I help myself with 5 and with 20 minute sketches, where the essential shapes must be tended to firstand I force myself to use the embellishments sparingly. I saw somewhere that a painting a day for a week should be helpful. I tried it - it is. It is however more a color-sketch a day - and gets rather ratty - in the back of my mind I get impatient, because it feels like taking away time from what I need and want to do. Good Luck! R. |
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