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Lung Tom
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| 03/12/2007 12:17 AM |
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I'd like to see a new category to display an artists paintings. Plein air regardless of the medium used and not based on a photograph. The only photograph would be the one taken to post the finished art work. |
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Lung Tom
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| 03/12/2007 1:55 PM |
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I thought there were many who painted en plein air. Are there not others who would like to see a Plein Air catagory based on nature not without the use of a camera?
So what is the answer? Does everyone use a camera? |
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Lung Tom
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| 03/12/2007 2:02 PM |
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Change prior message from: Not without use of a camera to with out the use of a camera. |
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gene
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| 03/12/2007 3:58 PM |
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| I think there may be some of us who paint plein air, but I'm not sure it is necessary to have a whole new category for that. But it would be interesting to have that mentioned in the text we post along with the photo of the art. ..........Gene |
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Lung Tom
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| 03/12/2007 9:24 PM |
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It would be interesting to see how people paint when not copying a photograph. |
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Rosario
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| 03/13/2007 5:29 AM |
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I think the term " copying a photograph" pertaining to us artists is a misnomer. As artists we draw and paint according to our interpretation. You know that 10 artists painting the exact same scene will arrive at a different work. Anyway, to me, if you are attempting to reproduce the exact scene and feeling at the time, doing it out doors would be easier. It's also not easier for other obvious reasons not to even mention climate. The one thing that stands out in my mind though is the rapid changing conditions while we paint. We all know how quickly the sun sets and rises and how fast cloud formations change. As a watercolorist myself, I believe it's a little easier because of the speed of the medium. Me, I'm more comfortable with my digital camera and all the conveniences of my studio such as making prints of the subject from my computer, copy machine, stable work surface, etc.,etc. Yes, sometimes I'll even use someone elses photos, taken from magazines, download from the computer, travel brocures, etc. I would love to hear from others on this subject and know what your opinion and experiences are. Lung Tom has brought up an interesting subject. Thank you,
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heatherm
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| 03/13/2007 7:28 AM |
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Hi all,
Years ago I used to paint plein air, and it was a lot of fun. Sometimes I would go out alone. Sometimes there were 3-4 of us out there using various mediums, and the watercolorists achieved a more finished painting that the rest of us. I used oils and finished the painting in my studio. I really miss those times, the comradarie, the exchange of ideas etc. Today, because of health issues, I am not able to paint without taking photos, I bought a digital camera so I can download the photos immediately and start painting so as not to lose the feeling. The sunrise I did, I sat at the ocean for over an hour and took around 90 photos of it, it was an unusual sunset for here. Without the camera I would never have been able to paint it. I do agree that plein air makes for a fresh painting, but I find I can paint with the same spontaneity as I did outdoors.
The most interesting and challenging plein air painting was when at the ocean with crashing waves, we would sit forever studying the waves, waiting for the light to be just right to get just the right atmosphere, then paint as fast as we could to capture it. Yes, those were the days and I miss them. |
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Materese
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| 03/13/2007 9:00 AM |
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I would love to see a section devoted to plein air or direct life painting. Not sure how that could get set up here - maybe if we just post under the approproate medium and note "plein air" or "from life" in the title of the work. My personal experience is that there is a more direct experience, and a definite difference (freshness / atmosphere / truth etc.) when working directly from life or outdoors. I always muck up a painting when I rely too much on a photo, but that's just me.
However, as Heather said, some people do choose (or must) work from photographs, for a host of different reasons.
Lung, the weather is finally breaking where I live (the NorthEast) and I've got my pochade box ready to go - I'd be glad to share this experience with you. However, be warned - landscape is my nemesis - it's a different "language" for me - but I really think that doing this would help me (pardon the pun) "learn the lay of the land" .
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Materese
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Lung Tom
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| 03/13/2007 11:07 AM |
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Greetings Materese, When I was younger, in my 40s I went to Gloucester, Mass for a week and painted a large watercolor (plein air) every day.I used a sketch pad to begin, made a pencil sketch filled it wit observed notes about sun/shadows etc.
Now in old age (85) I pain small watercolors rapidly in plein air or from memories. I love it when my daughter comes to visit and we go out into to country and plein air paint together. My niece is planning to go plein air painting with me as soon as she finishes comunity college this spring. It is great just being out painting.
I'm in Washington State otherwise I would like to paint the NE coast plein air with you. |
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Materese
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| 03/13/2007 5:16 PM |
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Lung, I love Washington State! My brother lived out there many, many years ago, what an exquisite location.
Are you able to photograph and post your work on this site? It would be fun and interesting to show "East Coast / West Coast" plein air paintings on line. (I would also just like to see your work since you work with the Sumi brush and ink - one of my favourite methods / styles! )
May you have good health and paint for at least another 85 years! And my deepest thanks for your website - I needed a reminder about the Eightfold Path! |
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Materese
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Lung Tom
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| 03/13/2007 7:16 PM |
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Back in the1960's when I did large watercolors Plein Air without a camera I did these two, one at Gloucester, Mass. the other at the Yap Islands in the far Pacific.
I'm posting these mainly for Materese. |
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Lung Tom
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| 03/13/2007 7:30 PM |
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I see my head reflexion in the dry dock painting.
This is of a men's house at the Yap Islands about 400 miles east of the Philippines |
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Materese
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| 03/13/2007 8:36 PM |
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Lung, these are really nice! I especially like the dry dock painting- it really feels like Massachusets. What I always find amazing is how we respond to our enviornment when painting "live" - everything changes, colours, depth, mood. Thank you so much for posting these! I was able to complete a plein air today (we had 63 degrees today!). I'll post it tomorrow - it's an oil about 7" x 9" (sorry, it's almost bedtime for me - I've got to work tomorrow - calling Switzerland at 7 am Eastern, U.S. time, ugh!)
I haven't done watercolour in a few years, I may have to bust them out and give it shot again! Thank you for the inspiration. |
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Materese
http://www.ghostwoodstudio.com
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Materese
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| 03/13/2007 8:43 PM |
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| Actuallly, I did do a watercolour recently, hopefully the image will show . . . this was a study, I was inspired by my seashell collection and some botanical prints I had admired/Users/Materese/Desktop/DSCN4688.jpg |
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Materese
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Materese
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| 03/13/2007 8:45 PM |
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| Oh nuts, I can't get it to post - sorry! (it's bedtime anyway! ) |
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Materese
http://www.ghostwoodstudio.com
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