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tami

Posts:183

04/01/2009 5:15 PM Alert 
something just isn't right between the coloring of the two figures. Am I right? I tried to make my daughter's coloring pinker as she appears in the photo but something isn't right with the two together. Can it be fixed? -REVISED- Ok, I've made some changes and hope it's looking better. Is it? It's so hard to tell when you fuss for so long. Thanks for looking!








Wendy Leigh

Posts:8

04/01/2009 5:29 PM Alert 
Hi Tami,
I really like what you did with yourself in the picture, it is very soft and flowing but I find that is not the case with your daughter. I shifted about as I looked at it as I have a laptop and the image changes with the movement of your head as you know and I find the shadow color is very harsh on the baby. It needs to be changed to a softer color. I am not familiar enough with your paper/colors/etc. to talk about the mechanics of fixing it but that is the direction to go. Good luck. www.artbywendysblog.blogspot.com
tami

Posts:183

04/01/2009 5:36 PM Alert 
Thanks wendy, I think I see what you mean. The thing that I loved about the photo is the sunshine shining on us both, casting that beautiful glow you can only get in the "witching hour"". Unfortunately I do not know how to duplicate the effect. Perhaps I'll get some advice accordingly.
intcede
Posts:65

04/01/2009 6:29 PM Alert 
Its a wonderful sweet painting.
Jim

Posts:2748

04/02/2009 1:33 PM Alert 
It's hard to tell in this photo, but it looks like a toning down of the darker shadows on the baby
and lighter flesh tone wash in the sunlight areas toward the yellow spectrum might help.

All the best,
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com
tami

Posts:183

04/02/2009 4:39 PM Alert 
thank you intcede!

Jim, I took another look at the photo and you may be right. I so wanted to preserve the brightness of the sun on her face but it isn't white! That would probably help with the harsh shadows as pointed out by you and wendy.

Thanks for looking and taking the time to comment!
Pearl

Posts:194

04/02/2009 5:51 PM Alert 
Tami , this is really beautiful and very well done so hope you can fix it so you are happy with it.

Pearl

web page.. pearlotaylor.com
tami

Posts:183

04/02/2009 7:21 PM Alert 
thank you, pearl! I really want to save it from my ever increasing "unfinished" pile. I'm working now on trying to lift some of the harsh shadows. we'll see what happens after it dries....
Priti

Posts:700

04/03/2009 7:37 AM Alert 
Tami this is a nice painting. I can't believe i missed it. The shadow colors on the mom appear warmer to me than on the baby- i think if you warm up the colors on the baby it might not look so cold. Just a suggestion. Also a if the subjects are warm go with a cooler darker background to bring them forward.
Don't do anything to change the expressions - they look very good.

Priti
http://priti-fine-art.blogspot.com/
Kim

Posts:861

04/06/2009 1:28 PM Alert 
Tami, I'm hanging on to see what you've done. I had no idea how to help with this one, but it sure is sweet (watercolors are not my strength.) It looks like you've got some good advice.  What a treasure you'll have when it's finished.

"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once he grows up." ~ Picasso
www.nmdesertmoonstudio.blogspot.com
HisPenguin

Posts:25

04/08/2009 10:21 AM Alert 
maybe if the back ground was brighter or had more contrast... or maybe if you made it a little warming!!!

Inteligence is looking past logic, and into reality!!!
JayDavis

Posts:12

04/08/2009 8:59 PM Alert 
This painting has some lovely things happening in it. The baby is done in a subtle way, and the woman, especially her hair, seems to be out of sorts with the baby. Either tone down the intensity of color of strength of value change in the woman (primarily with her hair) or increase those things slightly in the baby, right now they seem to be treated as if they are lighted differently. To give an example, if the woman's hair had that strength of hue and dark value, then the baby's eyes and shadows (between the head and neck, the left side of the face), would be stronger in value.
tami

Posts:183

04/08/2009 9:20 PM Alert 
Hey y'all, thanks for all your comments, each one had been a huge help in isolating some problems. I have had an unusually busy week and hope to get back to this soon. I'll post it again soon, good or bad!!
tami

Posts:183

05/01/2009 8:14 PM Alert 
Just added the latest version to the first post. any better?

Holly, How do you add to a thread and indicate it is "revised" in the subject line and have it stamped with the current date instead of the original post date? I was wanting the two to be together so they could be compared but it remained in the order of its original date. Did I make sense?
intcede
Posts:65

05/02/2009 1:07 AM Alert 
I love what you've done with this. You added so much warmth to it, which is just what it needed. Great job!
Holly

Posts:161

05/04/2009 12:16 PM Alert 
Holly, How do you add to a thread and indicate it is "revised" in the subject line and have it stamped with the current date instead of the original post date?


Hi, tami,

I can change the subject line if you'd like. Let me know exactly what you want it to say, and I'll do it. (I suggest you e-mail me at artistsnetwork@fwmedia.com.)

I don't think either of us can change the date, though.

Holly
Kassie

Posts:721

05/04/2009 11:25 PM Alert 
Suggetion: Where you've written REVISED add the date there. Or perhaps the program you are using to JPEG has a text. You could type a small date in a lower corner of the painting.
Kathy
Gerald R. Buckner
Posts:10

05/07/2009 8:29 PM Alert 

Tami,

It would be of a great value to one that is about to step out and critique another's painting. First you should let us know what kind of paper and brand of watercolors you are using. (everybody should do this) also it would be a great help in telling us how long you have been working in a medium.

What everyone says about your work is a great importance. But i would like to add what I see.You are both in the same plane of  the painting, but you seem to be in a different plane than your daughter. She would look better if she was back farther in the work. She has a duller look in the colors whereas you are done in a brighter set of colors.

I have found that woman and kids have superfiscual layer of fat just under the skin making them harder to grasp.But knowing this makes it easier to paint. When woman get older or workout with strong muscel tone, they are easier to paint as they have more depth in the face. Babies look a lot older when the lines are not soft. In painting in any medium, try not to make the lines so pronouncd. This makes them appear much older. I know it isn't the easiest subject to do, but try this.

Do another painting without you in it. If you like the results then try it again with you in it. Do her completly first than add yourself. Try turning the photo upside down and turn your paper also.

One thing one must do before they paint is to relax. Not grind your teeth but let your mouth fall like you would be adding makeup. Stand up and swing your arms from left to right, cover your eyes with both hands leaving a space between the fingers and your eyes. Read the book drawing on the right side of the brain. It has helped ever since it was written. She explains in more detail how to get the right side, which is the artistic side. The left side is for mechanicl doings, math etc.

Never give up! I learned a lot by painting things over and over again to see if I could do them better. Also I did them in other mediums. Some subjects just are better in watercolors and others in oils or whatever.

Gerald R. Buckner   "The Saint Augustine Artist"

tami

Posts:183

05/09/2009 12:53 PM Alert 
Welcome to the forum, Mr. Buckner! Thanks for taking the time to comment at length on my painting. I really appreciate your comments. I've done this one in oil and in wc and I think I will follow your advice and practice doing my daughter alone then perhaps adding myself to the picture. I love your suggestion at painting upside down. I actually have done that with another piece and it really does force you to see it differently.

How did you know I was so rigid when I paint!

Great insight and I hope you will post some of your own work!!

tami

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