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vikingwife

Posts:910

09/07/2008 12:25 PM Alert 
Hi all.... Between pen&ink projects, I've been experimenting with watercolors. I made the red flower and green leaf as part of a lesson from Susan Harrison-Tustain's "Glorious Garden Flowers in Watercolor". The cat and other flower are from my own photos. Question.... in progression....what colors can I use to build up a nice green color for my leaves? I am having a really hard time with those. And for my unfinished flower, the color in the photo is a brillian purplish/fushia color. Any idea how to get that color?








jimmy4u

Posts:82

09/07/2008 1:22 PM Alert 
I don't know why you haven't tried this sooner, These are very well done!
Your drawing skills give you an edge in producing some very nice work.
As far as green goes try mixing some brown and red together to get a
"Christmas green" color. Not to sure on the purple you are looking for, but
you might want to try some alizarin crimson and pthalo blue to come up with the shade
you're looking for.

All the best,
Jim
Lung Tom
Posts:311

09/10/2008 11:43 AM Alert 

Keep three green pigments (tubes): I use Daniel Smith pigments.  Permanent Green, Permanent green light, & Hookers green.  You can blend the greens with Ult. marine blue, Brt. Umber, or a yellow to get whatever shade of green you desire.


Lung Tom: Lung is Thai for "Uncle" the u is pronounced as a oo as in loose.
vikingwife

Posts:910

09/11/2008 6:02 AM Alert 
Thanks for the commpliment Jim I have those colors....so I'll give it a try. Have you ever used Schminke paints? I primarily use Winsor Newton Artist watercolor, but I bought a few tubes of the Schminke brand when I was unable to find pthalo blue and pthalo green in WN. I like them very much!

Tom.....I have never heard of Daniel Smith pigments. Are they expensive? I think I have all those colors in WN except for permanent green light. I'll have to check. Thanks for the tip

Jess
Priti

Posts:682

09/13/2008 10:25 AM Alert 
Just wanted to mention that i have had more luck when i mix colors, yellow and blue or adding brown or blue to the greens that i have. The paintings look nice.

Priti
http://priti-fine-art.blogspot.com/
vikingwife

Posts:910

09/18/2008 7:58 PM Alert 
Thanks Priti I'll try your advice too!

Jess
Kassie

Posts:697

09/18/2008 8:54 PM Alert 
Hi Jess.
About making watercolors appear darker. I find an underpainting of ultramarine Blue left to dry well, will make whatever green or lavender you paint over it appear darker. Don't go heavy with the under painting or you'll have mud.
Kassie
vikingwife

Posts:910

09/18/2008 9:52 PM Alert 
Thanks Kassie!

After I first posted this....I looked at that flower again and realized that I wasn't going to be able to mix the color that I wanted in my palette. Instead...as YOU said...I need to do an underpainting and build up the color in layers like I did with that flower study. I think maybe I need to grab more books about painting watercolors in layers. It's funny......I spend literally MONTHS on pen & ink pictures.......but when it comes to watercolors....I keep hoping for instant success. I will definitely take your advice about underpainting with the ultramarine. I plan to redraw the flower a few times and do some practicing until I nail that purple shade!

Jess
kitsgirl
Posts:3

12/14/2008 6:58 PM Alert 
Don't know if you have tried any colors yet but there ae some really pretty cobalt violet added to some DS quinacridone magenta and softened with yellow. and as far as green leaves i will underpaint different yellows and while some are still wet will charge with blues such as ub and cobalt and scratch some viens in major leaves also charge some stems with ochre or sienna. all so the greens will fade into shadow or glow but all varied colors. kitsgirl
Kim

Posts:842

12/15/2008 1:11 PM Alert 
Jess, I don't know how I missed this one. How did you do on getting your greens and fushia colors? I'm hoping that you'll show more of what you've done since you last posted; like Jim said, your drawing skill enhances your work.

"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once he grows up." ~ Picasso
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Gerald R. Buckner
Posts:10

05/08/2009 9:16 PM Alert 
Vikingwife,
It's me again Gerald R. Buckner. I like what you already have done. Remember that color changes with ligh as it is be lit up it will change. Also at different times of the day.
As for the greens: Alot of times I paint a base color of winsor newton's pthalo blue (red shade) when dry I apply a glazing of new gamboge. I keep a color chart of different blues done this way as well as making a color wheel using all of my colors. I mix a half of say blue and half of the folling color, when I get to the second color of yellows I come up with all kinds of greens.
As for the violet flower, Wn cobalt violet will give you a warm hue. When I use Grumbacher's cobalt violet it is a cooler blue.
Normally One needs but 10 or 12 colors to paint ussing 4 - 6 at one time. But I keep a vast variety because the chemical reactions are different, making for more pleaseant surprizes. Besides I like water colors so much that I have become a miser. I once saw an ad by Jerrys artarame . He was talking about the 16 new colors from WN, and he explained what every color did. Like I now us Potter's pink in the clouds instead of alzaran crimson. It is a much softer a a slightly cooler color. Just a little will do the job. Opera Rose + a touch of blue will create the color that you are trying to obtain. I went through the same thing back when I was beginning. Today I still am still learning. If any one is interested in the way I come up with my color charts I would be glad to post them. I need the encouragement though.
Another suggestion: save the notes that you like from the forum. This will help you later.

Gerald R. Buckner "The Saint Augustine Artist" grbuckner@aol.com
HisPenguin

Posts:21

05/15/2009 1:10 PM Alert 
that great... the red flower gives me great happiness

inteligence is looking past logic, and into reality!!!
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