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Subject: Overworked Sedona Scene

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JoyK

Posts:191

12/27/2007 3:16 PM Alert 
I would like some feedback on how to avoid overworking a scene; I just can't seem to help myself!! I keep thinking I'll just do a little more and then I end up with too many layers. I posted Part 1 of this on another forum, and got suggestions to add trees in the foreground, but I don't think they came out well. I wasn't going to post this, but I want to learn from my mistakes. Happy New Year!!!












JOY

Cogito ergo sum.
Egon

Posts:363

12/27/2007 3:40 PM Alert 
Hi Joy
Its a little difficult for me to explain this
The red mountins near Sedona are a nice motive
General - colors and details normal are fading with the distance -
the deep sun and the strong shadows in the first 2 photos makes it difficult for you -

you have it in the last photo only
warm colors in the foreground /colder in the background -
a way leading into the scene - makes allways a good composition
Duende

Posts:83

01/04/2008 11:31 AM Alert 
Hi Joy, what works for me is to make sure there's more contrast in the foreground, that usually pushes all the backround stuff into the background. I say overwork away! that way you know what to expect the next time.
D~
JoyK

Posts:191

01/04/2008 11:51 AM Alert 
Thanks for your input Pablo and Egon. You both are so skilled your opinion means a lot to me. It seems as if the forum has had minimal input from just a few artists lately. I am quite a slow painter and hope to post again soon. I just get to paint a little in the evenings and weekends. I always look forward to your work and really enjoyed your websites and your distinctive styles. I am attempting to develop a style but fear I am not succeeding in that regard.

Happy New Year to all!!!!

JOY

Cogito ergo sum.
iglazier
Posts:82

01/09/2008 1:33 PM Alert 
I think you have wonderful reference photos and along with your memory of the area should serve you well. You have strong shadow patterns, so the time of day is easy to tell. I agree with the brighter colors in foreground and bluer to the background--but more could be added. Do some thumnail sketches, using your memory as well, and combine the photo's keeping compostion in mine, also your feeling of the scene. Then add a value pattern, using the darks and lights of your photos----connect the dark patterns---for a stronger  comp--Then choose your palettte  for the time of day you want to show us.  Do a loose wet-into-wet underpainting with your choosen paletter, bluer in the background and brighter for the foreground.  If the foreground is in shadow, make the shadows warm in color, and darker somewhat that the center of interest.   You just need to tink about your feeling for the place,  and maybe get some w/c books on compostions.  but its a great try at it and keep  going!  you will surprize yourself at how simple it can be.

Ida M. Glazier
JoyK

Posts:191

01/10/2008 12:15 PM Alert 
Ida, thank you so much for the suggestions and taking the time to look at my painting!. I am trying to work with strong shadow patterns, but it is hard to get the values right.

JOY

Cogito ergo sum.
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