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Subject: Why not oil pastel?

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tami

Posts:183

11/29/2008 7:19 PM Alert 

Judging by the number of posts here compared to oil pastel forum, soft pastels seem to be the favorite. I would love to hear your comments on why you prefer soft pastels. I was told the effects are pretty much the same, but oil pastels are less messy. What do you think?

thanks!

rpartin

Posts:430

11/29/2008 10:22 PM Alert 
Hi Tami,
I am not an expert pastel painter, but I will share my reasons for preferring soft pastels to oil pastels.
My experience with oil pastels has been that they are very waxy and very hard to control. The ones that I have used remind me of crayons. However, I have seen some very nice work done in oil pastels.
Even though soft pastels are very messy to work with, I feel I have more success in achieving the results I want by using them.
I disagree with the statement that the effects are pretty much the same. At least, that is not the case in my experience with the two mediums.
Ron

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tami

Posts:183

11/30/2008 5:22 PM Alert 

Thank you for your comments,  Ron!

I bought a sample pack of oil pastels to try them. It does remind me of coloring! It is a bit more labor intensive than I thought to just  lay down some color. I do like being able to blend with turpenoid for different effects. I'm guessing the same can be done with soft pastels and water.

 

christyart

Posts:50

12/02/2008 5:02 AM Alert 
Just as with soft pastels, there are varying degrees of hard and soft in oil pastels.  Senneliers are one of the softer brands of oil pastels.  Some very nice effects can be made with oil pastels, using tortilons, color shapers and even palette knives.  You can load up the pastel and create some very interesting textures with oil pastels.  There's a very helpful book called "Oil Pastel for the Serious Beginner" by Larry Blovitz.  It has everything you need to know about oil pastels.  Or check out the oil pastel forum at WetCanvas.com. 

Christine

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mikec@pols

Posts:888

12/02/2008 5:01 PM Alert 
Hmmmmmm....well, I haven't tried oil pastels since I was around 11 years old. I didn't like em then and I'm not sure that I would now. They seemed so sticky to me. I couldn't move them at all and blending was a real headache! Like Christine said, there are varying degrees of hardness as I'm sure that there are also varying degrees of quality. Those I tried at age 11, I'm sure were not the good ones! Although I have a similiar art supply budget now, back then things were less expensive for better quality than they are now.
I agree with Ron in that there are some beautiful works done in oil pastels out there...
Mike

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scochran
Posts:233

12/07/2008 9:38 PM Alert 
I have worked in both over the years. Like everything else there are pros and cons.
You can get a very painterly effect with oils.
Quality really counts on the smoothness of the oil and the richness of the color. Oil pastel do not come out of your clothes.
It is the finishing I am never sure about: to seal or not to seal, to glass over or let cure, blend with turpenoid or second color. Like a lot of other things it depends on my subject and/or mood.
Over all I believe for me soft pastels are more fun.
I am so moody about my work, I never seem to stay with any one medium for long and I am off to try the next. May be that is why I will never really master any of them. I just keep playing around with all of them.

shana cochran
bluiiz
Posts:532

12/08/2008 7:07 AM Alert 
I have tried oil pastels, but work exclusively in soft pastels. There is quite a difference  between the two, to me similar to the difference between acrylic and oil paints... in that they are different..  The waxy tecture of the oil pastels blend much like oil paints, and I found that soft pastels can be layered in a way that I found more difficult with oil pastels... Personally, I achieve the effects that I prefer with soft pastels and find that there are more variety of colors.... though I have seen some beutiful work done in oil pastel... I think you will find some lack of acceptance when trying to enter finished pieces in shows, and galleries, etc., I know in most pastel shows oil pastels are not accepted, but soft pastel painters are also faced with some lack of acceptance or "credibility" with some art worlds, though acceptance is growing. 

Anna
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