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pastelmimigt

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11/26/2008 11:00 PM Alert 

These are 5x7 color studies.  Which composition do you like best?  I'm going to do one as a 12x16 and am having trouble deciding which.  Thanks.

Michele












Deb

Posts:177

11/27/2008 7:16 AM Alert 

Hi Michele,

I like the third one.  I like the path and the colors are more balanced. 

I just had a beautiful tree scene on display and after the show we all got a professional art critique.  I was surprised when she commented on how peaceful and lovely my painting was.   But her comment that stood out for me was "wish it where bigger".  Now I am thinking big and want to do some large pieces 16 x 20. 

I would consider making these that size also.  All are very beautiful.

Thanks for posting,

Deb 

mikec@pols

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11/28/2008 6:12 AM Alert 
I like one & three....three better, but if you paint number three, maybe move the path/road to the left or right just a bit so that it isn't centered?
Mike

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Kim

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11/28/2008 8:59 AM Alert 
I like the first one because of the darkness of the blue (the sunlight being blocked) against the strong light coming in above making the trees yellows and lime greens.

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pastelmimigt

Posts:373

11/28/2008 12:03 PM Alert 
Deb, Thanks for commenting!

Mike, Thank you, too!

Kim, And thank you, too!

Funny, I was going to do the second one! I think I'll try all three and see which one I like best. In any case, I've decided the colors are a bit too bold. I read Richard McKinley's pastel pointers blog on fall colors and he gives a great tip for creating harmony in fall scenes. Add some of the dominant color to everything else.

Michele
pastelmimigt

Posts:373

11/28/2008 2:48 PM Alert 
I misspoke a little in my description of how to harmonize a painting.  McKinley said to add some of the dominant color temperature to the other colors.  So I brought #2 picture above into GIMP and added the dominant warm orange to the cool colors of the sky and road.  The warms were still too dominant and artificial looking so I cooled them down by adding the green from the trees.  Do you think this picture now has more harmony?







CTBarb

Posts:143

12/01/2008 9:54 AM Alert 

Hi Michelle,

Although I am by no means an expert, I couldn't help but comment...I love the studies...the colors and shadows are absoutely beautiful.

Like you, I like the second composition, but the third is probably the most classically composed. By that I mean that in it you have set up the dark cools on the lower left played against the warm lights on the upper right.  I do not agree that the path needs to be moved.  As you have it the focal point (that intersection of the golden sector) is right where the path disappears.  And the value differences are dramatic...the shadows versus the light filled upper right giving the impression that you are looking out of the shade into a glorious light-filled area. 

So having critiqued #3, let me go on to why I like #2 and what you have done with it.  Starting with the original color study... Here you have set up the cool darks on the lower right and the warm lights on the upper left...equally effective. But the transition is sharper...which I think makes it not as harmonious.  I feel that mass at the right is too dark and so does not work as well as the dark on the left of #3. I would lighten it and perhaps the far shore of the lake should be lightened too if the light is coming from the upper right behind the viewer.   The trouble I see with the composition is that I don't see a strong focal point.  Obviously it is the red trees which do occupy the golden section.  But the base of their trunks is just about the middle of the vertical distance...I guess I would move them down to the golden section corner.  That would decrease the expanse of gray at the lower left as well.  

So that brings me to the rework.  I think you have the sky too dark now....I loved it in that clear blue of the original...definitely the sky color here in CT.  You have now also lost some of the dramatic value differences in an attempt to harmonize.  So now I don't feel that I am looking out of the shade into blazing autumn sunshine which I felt was a strong point of the original.  So I guess I would vote to keep the brights of the original study but make the value change that I suggested. 

The reason I wouldn't chose #1 is the lack of an interesting focus.

Well, bet you are sorry you asked for comments.  I hope I haven't offended you.  I do love the studies and think that either #2 or #3 will be great in a larger size.

Barbara

 

pastelmimigt

Posts:373

12/02/2008 11:04 PM Alert 
Barbara,

I'm not offended at all.  This is the kind of critique I love to get!  Thank you, you gave me a lot of food for thought.

I did #2 as a 16x12 and don't like it.  Probably the issues you stated and more.  It just doesn't seem to come together.

Michele





CTBarb

Posts:143

12/03/2008 10:46 AM Alert 

Hi Michelle,

I see what you mean about the larger painting.  The road area has expanded and I thought it might be too much in the original.  And unfortunately as you added the reflection of the sky (a nice touch) it lined up with the major light area on the road.  I don't think adding the tree in the foreground worked.  Blocks my "entry" into the painting too much.  I still think the dark mass on the right is too dark.  Making the distant shore more distant might work if the road takes up less of the space.  But I have to tell you that the shape composition of the first sketch was in my opinion right on.  And although I made the earlier comment about moving the trees down, now looking at it again,  I don't think it should be very much because the beautiful shadows on the road contribute to that wonderful autumn sunshine feeling.  My only other comment is that the "finished" piece doesn't have that wonderful freedom of strokes that you achieved in the study.  This happens to me too as I strive to take my sketch further.   I prefer the looseness of the sketch and so I am constantly trying to keep that freedom of stroke.  An example of that is the red trees which in the sketch just look helter skelter contributing to the exuberance of their red orange colors but in the larger piece are more defined and to me more controlled. 

I really like the colors you achieved.  What kind of pastels did you use?  I am just starting and so I have a fairly small supply of pastels and often don't seem to be able to find the colors that I want.  I tend to sketch with new pastels and then try to put softer pastels over it.  Sometimes it works and sometimes not. 

Hope you try again for a larger rendition.  I think it can be stunning.

Barbara

 

 

 

 

pastelmimigt

Posts:373

12/03/2008 12:44 PM Alert 
Barbara,

Thanks for replying. I did notice the lines matched up (an eye stopper for sure) and that the maple tree wasn't as loose as the color study. Thanks for pointing out the size of the road and that the new tree doesn't work. And I definitely do not like the dark tree on the right. I think I'll start this one over and make it look more like the color study (but change the background tree heights and ditch the dark tree on the right. Your input has helped me immensely.

I sketch with vine charcoal, fill in the local colors with NuPastels and then use Great American pastels over that. So my painting is mostly the Great American pastels which are the Richard McDaniel Plein Air Gallery Assortment (78). I really like the colors, but they crumble easily. I'm definitely going to try Unisons in my next purchase. I have just one right now that works great. I haven't tried to break it into a piece that I can use on it's side and that's a good test for crumbleness - but I've heard that they don't crumble.

Michele
CTBarb

Posts:143

12/03/2008 3:27 PM Alert 
Thanks for the info on pastels. I have Nupastels and mostly Sennelier which are very soft (even buttery) and have nice shades and a few Rembrandts which are not as soft but don't have as wonderful colors. The Senneliers don't seem to crumble too badly and the Rembrandts definitely don't.

Barbara
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