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Diane
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| 06/09/2007 12:38 PM |
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This is my last workshop painting. It was done in about 1 1/2 - 2 hours. I swear I spent most of the time making vineyard rows.  The red you see is the underpainting. I didn't have time to completely cover it up. I know the house is crooked, and the vines need more color, but I didn't want to do anything until I have a plan. It's not that great, but I don't want to mess it up and have to spend time fixing the mess-up. So I would be very grateful for some advice. TIA. |
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bluiiz
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| 06/10/2007 4:52 PM |
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Diane, I just did a painting which is a lot of dark greens and the whole painting full of something, similar, in a way, but what it lacks is stark contrast, and a focal point, and I was just thinking about going back in, and my thought is that it might work for this too, how about.... stark white light on the roof and left side and then white yellow light on some of the field and rows, straighten the line on the house and blacken the windows and doors, and make light your focal point?.aslo, blur out the tree line behind the house, ending the horizon at the same level as the house roof is a little odd, ... just a thought sorry, it may be my painting I really want to fix LOL  can't wait to see what you do, it's always a learning journey when you do this! |
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Diane
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| 06/10/2007 5:44 PM |
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| Not to worry, I love your advice Anna. Do you think I should riase the horizon a abit so it won't be on the same level as the house roof? Those are supposed to be shutters on the windows. (It seems to me all houses in France have them.) However, I couldn't, and didn't have the time, to give them more detail. So I will make my own windows as you suggest. I think this must be the vineyard manager's home. My friend in France who has a vineyard, has a small cottage that is the manager's home. I love the idea of adding the sunlight. I think the focal point is the vineyard I guess, and adding the light and maybe a few more colors on some for the vine stalks will surely make it look better. Thanks! |
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Jim
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| 06/10/2007 8:13 PM |
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Hi Diane,
I think Anna had some excellent ideas for you to think about. The only other thing
you might want to consider is more contrast in your clouds.
Jim
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All the best,
Jim
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tequi
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| 06/12/2007 4:04 AM |
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Anna makes a good point. The story is the house, as it is the thing that's "different," bordering on a complementary contrast to the green, not the vines you labored over. Try developing it. The clouds and vanishing point are fine--a pleasant place for the eye to rest after a busy foreground. I wouldn't mess with them. Nor would I cover up the red underpainting. It gives the painting sparkle and depth. However green has taken over, and the rows are so neat. What color can you envision in the shadows between the rows? What happens if they are broken up a bit. A nice shape swings in front of the house. Where can you go with that? Can you expand on it. You might do a few sketches to find out. Just because there was a vineyard there with multiple rows of green doesn't mean you have to paint it all in.
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vikingwife
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| 06/12/2007 8:33 AM |
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Hi Diane...
I like the detail work in the foreground rows. I would love to see that done in the mid ground rows as well. The eye IS immediately drawn to that house.....so I would definitely rework that a bit. But other that, I wouldn't change anything else. I think it looks great
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Diane
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| 06/12/2007 1:01 PM |
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Thanks S and Jess (Ha! It rhymes.  ) I appreciate the suggestions. Now I have a place to start. Do you
think it would be recognizable if I added a rose bush or two in front
to the vines that are directly in front of the house? That would give a
liitle more color and also draw the eye in toward the house. Most
vineyards in France have rose bushes in the vineyard, sometimes at the
end of every row. That's because if there is a blight, it affects the
roses first and alerts the owner so it can be kept from the vines. |
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tequi
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| 06/12/2007 1:17 PM |
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I wouldn't get fussy with rosebushes, but develop the house with lights and darks. Raise it above the horizon line as Anna suggested. Do sketches first. If this is to be your focal point, you might want to lose some of the detail in the vines (there's a lot of contrast in them). Having two focal points such as vines and house makes for a confusing composition. The vines could lead to the house or a path or road through the vines could lead to the house. On the other hand, the story could be in the vines, and the house dimiinished by less contrast with the surrounding area.
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Bruce Johnson
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| 06/13/2007 1:55 AM |
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Hi Diane
I'm not a landscape artist but my first impression of your painting was the house was too small to be the focal point.. I would bump up the size of the house to twice the size and sharpen the focus( sharper edges) also addd more light to roof top etc.. just a thought... |
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jason
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| 09/28/2007 6:51 PM |
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| I am sure there were other colors out there besides green- like from drying leaves, reflections from the sky, shadows, fruits or vegetables . |
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Diane
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| 09/28/2007 8:18 PM |
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Nope, I just looked at the photo again. Pretty much just various shades of green--other than the brown of the dirt below the vines (which is darker brown than I have it here), and the house. There is a gray stone wall in front of the biggest tree on the right, but there is also a garage or something there that I took out, so I thought the wall didn't make sense. I might try adding it though. There is one red rose bush at the end of one of the rows. The house needs a LOT of work. I only had a couple of hours to do the drawing, do the underpainting, and then get this much in--and I am not fast. I also did the drawing standing up. I'm not good at that. That's why the house is crooked.
I can't believe it's been this long since I posted this painting! I have had no time to work on it, so it's still in limbo for now. I've printed off all of your great advice so I'll have it handy when I get a chance to work on it again.
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jason
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| 09/29/2007 6:58 AM |
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| That's one of the problems from photos, they do not capture everything and usually landscape artists that use photos take multiple shots and close ups too. The other thing is that because a photo is not perfect, artistic liscense is used to add or change things that are not in the original photo , but from other photos saved in a journal. So you should feel free to use artistic lisecence or take new shots of the scene and then change the painting. |
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pastelmimigt
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| 09/29/2007 3:55 PM |
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Hi Diane,
I'm glad the red underpainting is not completely covered as it adds interest. I've been taught by a few different teachers to not completely cover the underpainting for this reason. Look at the halo of red behind the trees - beautiful. Perhaps you can add some red to the vines, for balance and interest. I'm not too sure about how to choose focal points, but I agree that the house may be too small to make it the center of interest. I don't know if the vines are too large to be the COI but hey, why not spruce them up with some color anyway to see what happens.
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