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billmahler
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| 06/22/2008 7:48 PM |
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This is my second seascape, and I really don't know whether I have a good painting or not.
Brutal comments welcomed!
Oil on board
12X6
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..send ye not therefore to know for whom the bell tolls- it tolls for thee. John Donne
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caryn
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| 06/22/2008 8:28 PM |
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Very calming, Bill. Of course, I am the ocean girl...smile...
I love how you handled the sky and clouds. The only suggestion I might have is the values seem a little close. If you squint everything is the same intensity. You might lighten up the whites--especially on the sand in the front of the painting--and add some dark contrast I think it would give it some pop.
Although, again, this might be an artifact from submitting a photo. Hard to tell without seeing the real thing. Good job. Keep doing seascapes.
Caryn
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plein air painter
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| 06/23/2008 2:35 AM |
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| That's a lot of blue. |
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reverse is more useful that floorboarding it |
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MTillie
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| 06/23/2008 11:31 AM |
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I used to have an artist teacher who would always say: It is a good start. She was usually correct since I had more to do even though I thought I was finished. So here goes:
Maybe lighten the sky even though it was very blue in reality. Also the horizon line needs to fade more--add a red or orange to the sky in that area. |
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plein air painter
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| 06/23/2008 1:28 PM |
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Bill, if you do nothing else to further your career in spreading paint, pick up CARLSON'S GUIDE TO LANDSCAPE PAINTING. It's 10 bucks and you can get it at Amazon.com. This book is pretty much the bible to the basics of landscape painting. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, it's spelled out for you. For a quick jump start, go to the chapter 3, page 34. Here you will find that the GENERAL rule (there are exceptions and sunlit sand is one of them) is this: The source of light, the sky, is the lightest plane. The flat ground is the next lightest plane. The trees (upright plane) is the darkest plane. The mountains (slanting plane) is the next darkest plane.
This is a four-value scale you can build upon. Your composition here is OK. Hide the tube of blue paint. |
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reverse is more useful that floorboarding it |
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mikec@pols
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| 06/24/2008 4:01 PM |
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I kinda like it!
It's serene and peaceful and isn't the sky color supposed to reflect in the water?
Personally, I really like it...
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"You either grow or regress...nothing stays the same...." (unknown)
"A man may fall several times in life, but he is not a failure until he says that he was pushed..."
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billmahler
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| 06/24/2008 8:45 PM |
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Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions.
As I said, I haven't figured out what works for me with landscapes and seascapes yet, so the feedback is invaluable.
Plein Air Painter - what can I tell you? - I see a lot of blue in the sky!
The water is actually greener than the foto shows, but it's still pretty blue.. it's reflecting all that blue in the sky
Warning.. more to come!
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Kim
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| 06/25/2008 1:28 PM |
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| I can see where the four value scale is a great foundation to making a great painting (plein air - THANK YOU; I just learned something), I'm personally fond of the way this one is, too. I think it's because of the simplicity and your painting style - it creates a mood. Bill, may I suggest doing this another time as suggested and post both to compare? I'm really curious. |
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billmahler
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| 06/25/2008 6:56 PM |
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Thanks for looking and commenting, Kim.
Plein Air's vaiues idea is certainly appealing.. not as a formula, but as a guide to measure variations.
I'll be doing more with that in mind.
Plein Air:
I checked out Carlson's book on Amazon and I hesitated when they said the pictures are monochrome, so instead I went beserk and bought Richard Schmid's book for over $90 with shipping and tax.
That will mean I'll have to forego a lot of hot fudge sundaes, but everyone who has it raves about it.
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Snowartist
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| 06/27/2008 3:59 AM |
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Painting looks good. Good ideas being thrown around, but keep in mind, if you change it, it is no longer yours! Richard Schmid is the best! You will love that one.
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eyecandy
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| 08/30/2008 9:51 AM |
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Bill,
Your critiques are so good for everyone elses paintings, but you don't seem to see your own with the same criticall eye. Your painting is a good start, but it looks like a photograph take with a blue filter over the lense or a Hollywood moonlight scene. If this is what you wanted, then you've acheived it. But, somehow, I thnk that your were seeking something else. The sky is too dark and the water is too light. This is just the reverse of how it really appears in nature. The beach is too blue and it really never even looks blue except maybe in a moonlight scene. Naples yellow and pinks go well against the turquoise water and white breakers. The tree color is too blue. When I do trees, I start with any green, usually viridian on my palate and add a touch of orange and enough cadmium yellow to get to the shade of green that I need. This gives a natural green. And, of course, the tops of the trees are always lighter and sunnier than the shaded lower parts. I'm not sure of why I'm telliing you all of this when I know, from your critiques of others, that you must know all of this. Good luch. I'm sure that you can make this painting much more beautiful. |
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Phil Sydell
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