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kierkegaard

Posts:11

09/21/2007 12:55 PM Alert 
finally starting to get results with this monotype thing.
thought id post it here, as it is in oils.


still in a primative stage (interestingly it reminds me of the paintings in Lascaux) in understanding this medium...

its art because i say it is - Duchamp
klippie

Posts:1880

09/21/2007 5:22 PM Alert 
Very nice start.

Retha

If at first you dont succeed.........don't ever give up!
Jim

Posts:2337

09/21/2007 9:10 PM Alert 
Not quite sure where you're going with this, but I like the colors and the boldness of your strokes.
No hesitation. I wish I understood abstract work better.
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com

All the best,
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com
kierkegaard

Posts:11

09/22/2007 8:23 AM Alert 
I wish I understood abstract work better.

haha heres me thinking this is probably the most figural thing ive done in a long time.

i must say though, theres little difference in understanding a figurative or abstract piece. The trick is interpreting the artists visual language, rather than looking at it perceptually (once you interpret it, it transforms into a realistic space...Rothco is amazing at doing this). Focusing on ideas of memory and association are the founding blocks of unraveling "abstract" art (everything is abstract reallly). At the end of the day, a artist is painting the subject, removing all traces of reality does little to change the subject. The subject is never abstracted at all. Something on the lines of what Picasso said.

there we go, my art burp is over and done with now.

thanks for the responce.

its art because i say it is - Duchamp
Jim

Posts:2337

09/22/2007 11:54 AM Alert 

You're a little to deep for me, but if I get the jist of what you're
saying, what I look at is whatever I make of it. It can mean and be
many things to many people. Or am I just lost in the fog.
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com

All the best,
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com
kierkegaard

Posts:11

09/24/2007 9:39 AM Alert 

what I look at is whatever I make of it

hmm not exactly, the essence of expressionist paintings relies on the viewers "emotional" attachement, rather than in impersonal perceptive (figurative) painting. Something can exist in more than one form and still be "true". A good example is Joseph Kosuth's - One and Three Chairs

Joseph Kosuth's - One and Three Chairs

What it depicts is three chairs, even though really theres only one. what we are doing when looking at an image or text, is we associate memory and experience (and even with the physical object) to define it. So to an extent it is "what we make of it"

All that "abstract" art requires is a commitment to try and associate/identify with the painting, once you understand the visual language, it becomes an existable space, rather than a series of lines and shapes.

this is another great example its Picasso's Goat's head lamp and book, try and identify the sparate elements within the painting, even though they could never physically exist, they are almost real.

 


its art because i say it is - Duchamp
Kim
Posts:435

09/24/2007 1:22 PM Alert 
Hey, Jim - you're not alone. I'm trying to understand this also.
Kierkegaard - I see one chair as the title implies. And then I see a second on the wall. Is the third chair the written definition? In Picasso's work shown, can you give me an example of an identifiable element within the painting that couldn't ever physically exist? Exist how? As it is rendered by Picasso or as a concept? Maybe you are implying, for example, the skull as an element (or at least that's what it looks like to me). But a skull is real - it does physically exist. I'm confused. I'm really trying to understand what you're saying. I have my own feelings and conclusions of abstract, but I would like to open my mind to understand yours.
Jim

Posts:2337

09/26/2007 7:51 PM Alert 
Thanks for trying to explain this form of art. I guess I'm just to rooted in the visual explainable. I admire Picasso's work
even if I don't understand it, and I've seen Monet go from very detailed to paper cutouts. Trying to hard to understand just hurts my head. I appreciate the attempt to educate though.
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com

All the best,
Jim

www.paintingsbyjim.com
connie
Posts:445

09/27/2007 3:08 PM Alert 
Explain your - monotype thing?
What are you trying to do?
I will be watching you - keep showing your progression.
I love your comment
its art because i say it is - Duchamp
- it says it all -
Snowartist

Posts:196

09/27/2007 5:13 PM Alert 
I love the lady,, she seems so relaxed. Secondary Triad,, my favorite! Yes, do keep us posted with your updates. I also see faces in the figure. Nice work.
jbmerrill

Posts:274

09/29/2007 8:59 AM Alert 
I'd like to see a cleaner photo of what you're doing with this or any type of painting. To me, the viewer has only presentation to work with in all paintings, whether color, texture, realisim, or extreme Fauvism, such as The Road to Saint-Remy (1890 van Gogh). Take some time with your presentation. The same passion you paint with has to be conveyed to the end viewer.

Jim Merrill
www.workingcanvas.com

If you hear a voice within you say "you cannot paint," then by all means paint, and that voice will be silenced. -van Gogh
klippie

Posts:1880

10/04/2007 11:38 PM Alert 
I love it too and understand it but I thought you were still working on it....
i definately see your lady.

Retha

If at first you dont succeed.........don't ever give up!
vikingwife

Posts:882

10/05/2007 7:00 AM Alert 
Well I guess I'm a simple person. I understand the point you are making with the three chairs. I still prefer something that I can look at and make sense of......although I have come to appreciate some of the abstract work on this site. Is your painting a work-in-progress? I don't understand what you are trying to convey to the viewer. I think I see some red lips near the middle....maybe....other than that, I don't get it. I agree with both Jims' comments.

It's funny....I don't remember this Picasso picture....until I read what it was, I thought the side image was some type of flamingo, not a lamp Simple....yup, that would be me!!!

Jess
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